Welcome to the Talking Operations Web Conference, Reauthorization, Applications for Operations & ITs.
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Valerie Briggs is the program manager for transportation operations.
In this role she started the highway subcommittee on ITs PassPort.
She overseas ASTHO's's deployment program and operations program and coordinate's ASTHO's national transportation operations coalition and the national association of working group for operations and ITs.
Before coming to ASTHO Valerie worked for Boon Allen Hamilton.
She has a bachelor's degree in civil engineers and a master's in civil engineering and public affairs all from the University of Texas.
Now I'll turn it over to Valerie Briggs who will introduce our first speaker.
Thank you, Jocelyn, I'm going to start into the speaker introductions right away.
Our first speaker will be Dr. Anthony Cane.
Dr. Cane joined the American Association of State Highway and Transportation official this is 2001, as the director of engineering and technical services, in this capacity he overseas the development of legislative proposals,
the development of hundreds of technical publications and standards, the development of ASTHO software products.
The evaluation of transportation products, radio frequency filings with the SEC and support to numerous ASTHO committees.
He previously served as the Highway's National Director from 2001.
He was instrumental in implementing and enacting transportation acts and funding increases.
He's won numerous awards including the U.S. Presidential Rank award for distinguished service in 1991.
And with that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Kane.
Thanks, Valerie.
Today we'll focus on the broad act and I'll touch on a whole host of areas that have been enacted with the President's pen on August tenth
There you see the President with the Speaker of the House and the Head of the Service Transportation Committee from the House
looking on very favorably on a very tough battle we had for two-years to get enactment of the Service Transportation Act.
With many, many challenges, particularly the revenue sources to go into the Highway Trust Fund .
I think when all is said and done, we'll highlight many, many of the provisions that were important to our members, including funding and oversight, great increases in the Transit Highway Program.
A very new core highway safety program that's really important as we move toward driving down this in this country.
A score of environmental streamlining provisions that tie hand-in-hand and many new editions in the freight ITs and operations area.
There are three broad dimensions I will focus on in this presentation.
Record funding levels, the transit account willing become problematic by 2009, which I'll touch on a little later.
Major policy changes in a whole host of areas from expanded eligibility from the ITs and operations areas to tolling provisions and future courses of action.
I'll touch on several presentation shall commissions that are established to take a look at the future service of transportation
as well as the future revenue sources that are going to provide the income needed for transportation in the future.
Something that was near and dear to the members of both AFTA and ASTHO
and a whole host of organizations was with maintaining funding guarantees of both the transit and highway programs of both the trust fund as well as the general fund of transportation.
Many of you may recall during the enactment of 2T-21 there were several times when negative wrap would have taken effect and Congress would have stepped in and changed that.
I think the procedures we have in place now with limits on trust fund balances will protect us from that negative Java impact in the future.
Two things that I know the transit recipients in AFTA, the cities, counties really wanted to maintain no matter what, was the structure that had been put in place in reauthorization acts, mainly having funding guarantees
and fixing RABA so we did not have negative impacts should trust fund balances be reduced substantially or income generated to trust funds and lessons that had been forecast.
Overall, our members, state department of transportation, local governments, AFTA, public transit organizations searching for a program of about 300 billion dollars, and that's fiscal year '04 through '09.
As you can really recognize what was enacted, the research areas for lesser years than that, but the six-year package was about 300 billion dollars overall.
With FHWA's portion of the highway, 240 billion dollars and transit almost 53 billion dollars, substantial increases over T-21.
If we take a look at core programs, nine state departments of transportation particularly are very much interested in keeping the core programs of the highway as at the highest level possible.
Core programs which I'll explain in a little bit are such programs as the interstate 4R program, transportation program.
Historically earmarks had been increasing in every reauthorization act.
If you go back maybe ten reauthorization acts ago it represented less than 10% of the program.
In T-21 it had reached the level of 5%.
It reached an all-time high this time as earmarked projects.
In projects of national and regional significance and a new category of projects called tips, no, not the programming for Metropolitan areas, a series of additional hundreds of millions of dollars in special projects,
our members were very adamant about keeping it down, we wanted to maintain the programs -- they represent a very small dollar amount, less than a half a percent of the overall program.
Service of the core programs, I think something very important while Interstate maintenance are main attend have increased substantially.
National highway increased substantially.
Ridge programs are very important new core program which didn't exist before as the highway safety improvement program which I'll touch on more later --
it puts front and center a new core program at a very substantial increase of what it had been before.
Close to a tripling of the money that has to be spent by 2009.
Overall, the core programs are now 84% of the total package with an increase of 32% over where we were in T-21.
In the area of finance we expanded the Tipia changes which is the ability to have concepts, reducing -- a state infrastructure banks expanded to all states and very important tolling provisions.
Demonstrations programs for pricing, allowing the reconstruction pilots to continue as well.
It was a tremendous debate during the house and Senate version of the bill as well as conference tolling provisions it was a great effort to roll back the current authority in TOMS and we're very for the I think to allow the flexibility,
the cities and states to have an enhanced level of ability to toll for new capacity as well as price during peek periods to really be able to establish and control movements much more easily.
A very important area that both the administration and our members were interested in was getting private activity bonds to allow a greater use of public private partnerships in our new projects that we have around the country
and we're starting to see great expansion of new capacity using innovative techniques and foreign capital as well for the first time equity partner is coming in, and new toll projects in Texas,
foreign investors and projects in Virginia and elsewhere, it's very important to have the package of innovative finance tools available.
In addition, financial flexibility which I think was brought about by the number of new earmarked categories of special projects to allow flexibility to move money around.
If any of you are aware, one of the real problems of earmarks is underfunding particular projects leading to great expectations.
It's a great ability to have financial flexibility over what we had in previous acts.
The Congress was also very much in favor of enhancing the stewardship and oversite of the program,
the U.S. DOT inspector general as well as the Government Accounting Office
and a host of other organizations were very instrumental in seeing that oversite provisions were increased particularly on the highway program and the transit program as well.
On the highway program, there will be a requirement for annual reviews of dot financial management systems and project delivery systems,
yet to be defined what project delivery systems means but it is a broad look at how projects are planned, funded, designed and constructed.
In addition, minimum standards for project costs estimating and the language does not state what stage of a project you may be at,
it could imply greater standards and greater rigor used at the environmental stage and PSE design and construction stage.
Very important is the relationship with local government.
The Federal Government is going to have to ensure and the state dot grant recipients much more control and enforcement of financial management records of local government.
So a lot of the pass through funds in the SDP program are going to have closer scrutiny with with regard to financial accounting of local governments, we'll be working hand-in-hand with NPWA and others at the local governmental level.
In the area of value engineering, it had always been Enlight Emed 23 Requirement.
What this bill did was expand to bridge projects as well for 20 million or more.
It really just modified some of the value engineering and included bridges at the 20 million dollar or more level.
A very significant new requirement was the expansion of financial plan requirements on large scale projects.
Prior law required mega projects, projects over $1 billion dollars to have financial plan as proved by the secretary of transportation.
This act steps it down and now projects over 500 million have to have that approval.
But not just financial plans, project management plans, so state DOTs local governments are going to have to put together project management plans which show how the consultant
and governmental teams actively managed that project through the whole delivery of that project as well as the financial plan.
All projects over 100 million will have to have a financial plan.
Looking toward the future, we were interested -- in fact the whole coalition of members,
NTOC and others have looked toward the future realizing the resources coming into the Highway Trust Fund for both transit and highways were going to be fully utilized in this legislation.
Believe me when we show you a slide how they are fully utilized unless there's a revenue enhancement, the programs as we know them today for highways and transit will have to come to a screeching halt in terms of the levels they're at.
It's a very comprehensive commission formed, let me mention the last one on the chart first.
National financing commission, that commission in title one will be chaired by the secretary of transportation and will look very broadly at the future needs of service transportation.
Transit inter-city rail, highways, will also look strongly at the interstate highway system going out 50 years, how it should be designed from an ITs and capacity.
And a strong component on future revenue enhancements and how all service transportation can be financed, not just the highways, but the Highway Trust Fund but other service transportation modes as well.
Jumping to the first one on that chart, Section 1909.
The Senate Finance Committee looked at the Highway Trust Fund they're setting up a separate commission.
The two commissions are going to be looking prodly at the Highway Trust Fund .
There's also a Presidential commission on alcohol-impaired driving that comes up in the highway safety and its authorization areas.
Extremely important with drunk driving still impacting 40% of fatalities in this country and no drop in total number unfortunately of the 43,000 fatalities we've been experiencing in the past.
This commission has come up with hard hitting recommendations of how we can drive those numbers it down.
There's also a commission to look at fuel tax enforcement and innovation techniques.
One thing the revenue titled in this bill was increase the collection of revenues that less is evaded and there will be a commission set up to look at what more we can do on top of what we currently have in place.
This is a chart done by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce foundation, showing what would happen at the level, this is a forecasted level of the Highway Trust Fund balance from not the original house level,
but the house level just prior to conference, which is pretty close to the final package.
And the revenue forecast at that time.
Now, it's not a true picture because the revenue forecast would come a little lower now, because of increased fuel prices and less fuel consumption, the program was decreased a limb bit from the house level.
On balance it's probably a good visual of what's likely to happen.
The highway account for the trust funds being at 11 billion at the time of enactment will go negative by 2010.
Adjustments are being made now in light of the actual level of investments dictated in safety and the actual forecasts which are made twice a year.
It shows the importance of having these commissions and how they've come up with hard hitting recommendations on how you increase revenue to the Highway Trust Fund for both transit and highways,
or else the federal aide programs will have to be tremendously revised come the next reauthorization.
In the transit area, I think very good news as well.
The AFTA, strongly pushed great increases in the transit program which you had in the overall programs, by fiscal year 2009.
The transit recipients were very much interested in continuing funding guarantees which you got.
Keeping the match ratio at 20% which it was, there were efforts to make it 50/50.
Increased funding for transit in rural areas which is becoming extremely important with our aging population and providing better transit services tied in with healthcare services and other social services and a real big boost.
The transit cooperative research program was increased not as large as many would have liked, but increased as well.
Overall I think transit had a strong, strong increase.
And the transit account of the trust fund as well as general funds, but the guarantees cover both general funds as well as trust funds through the appropriations process.
In the areas of highway engineering and administration, in addition to the project oversight requirements which I mentioned earlier.
There are a number of things that will aid the grant recipient.
Design bills, increased flexibility as well as being allowed to award projects prior to the completion of NEFA provided no construction has started.
Gives much greater flexibility to the design and construction world which is becoming a much larger part of project delivery as more and more states try to get projects online faster with less forces,
it's going to be greater use of design build as we go on into the future, clearly.
In the bridge program, I think good news for local governments as well as state governments, increased flexibility by allowing bridges to be improved with bridge funds before they become deficient.
Why not have them preserved and use asset management techniques.
They also pull off the limitation on 35% being the maximum allowed to be spent on the state's apportionment of off state bridges,
if the state has critical bridges off the federal aid eligible highway system, they can utilize funds with no limitation.
Both state DOTs and the U.S. Government have for many years tried to give greater flexibility to state DOTs in rest areas.
The only thing that's allowed in current law, where a rest area revenue raising measures from toll roads that had been incorporated in the interstate in the beginning, like in New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
The only other revenue option a state could have were vending machines supported by the blind as the even revenue enhancing source you could have in rest areas,
resulting in less rest areas, rest areas being closed down, not having expansion of rest areas for commercial vehicle traffic.
What was done, some partial success, and this oasis program, which really directs trucks off the interstate.
It calls for guide signs to be developed for trucks off the interstate.
As a small program allowing commercialization of the idling reduction facilities which would be in effect ability of private sector command to put in isometry indication electrics.
Very limited commercialization of rest areas allowed.
The Congress made modifications and now calls for additional regulations on temporary traffic control and work zone areas there,
will have to be a relook at regulations that were issued very comprehensive regulations that we worked strongly with the Federal Government on issuing.
In the areas of buy America, existing provisions codified but expanded and it's going to be less of an ability for a state DOT to be able to have exemptions to buy America.
What the Congress did was say you have to have a massive increase in overall project costs on component costs.
Heretofore the law was administered -- if the state had a problem staying on steel.
They could how an exemption to buy America to have steel allowed.
Now the total cost of the project is impacted.
You have less ability to buy American exemptions, a program that the administration strongly supported and our members see as a high value is highways for life.
Funded at a low level.
But a program that all states would participate in with a very rich goal of trying to have highways be build better for both safety, operations, but to last longer.
We look forward to working with the administration in that program.
A new advisory committee was provided for motorcycles and herb you'ves, the membership is kind of unique, there can be only one state DOT person on that membership from a technical capacity provided they're also a motorcycle rider.
It's very much a program that was supported by the varying coalitions with a view of how highly operated and designed to accommodate motorcycles .
The area of research, I think it's good news, but with a strong caution.
The service transportation program has a substantial boost in increase, but designations and earmarks skidded the total funding.
So FHWA is going to have a hardship funding some of the tag traditional line items they've funded in the past, areas of publications and technical assistance.
So I think some real strong effort with the appropriations committee will be needed to try to bring some resolve with the re-tight constraints that will be there.
SPR funding, no program changes, but a funding increase with the core programs rising so there will be a substantial increase in state planning and research funds
and then in funds that draw off of that such as the initial highway research program.
A brand new research area called F-sharp, it's funded about half the level it has been anticipated but with regard to the mechanism of it being administered by the national academy of science
and all the control mechanisms that were supported were but in place.
A brand new cooperative research program, 17 million dollars per year, competitive in terms of who the administrator is.
One version of the legislation has the academy of science administering it, now it will be administered by the DOT.
It's totally up to the department of transportation as to who will manage those program funds.
Long-term pavement performance, the states have wanted to have funding to complete the 20-year research and technology sharing effort.
About half the level that the states felt were needed.
There will be have to be ref forms to their plan, at least a continuation of that program through a completion date of fiscal year 2009.
Training and education programs including national highway institute efforts.
The L-tab program which impact every state with technology assistant centers as well as the Indian reservations, an increase, but nowhere near the level the grant re1EU7 currents wanted.
Those centers have become near and dear to county, governments, the locational governments and to many state DOTs in terms of their district offices who are very, very much aggregated and decentralized right now.
The university of transportation research program, most people supported increases, the increase that came out was rather large in both dollar magnitude as well as named universities,
and so for at least the initial years, everyone knows who's going to be a winner, because you're all named.
There will be competition in two of the tiers in latter years.
In the areas of ITs congestion and freight, substantial increases are now, Jeff Lindley later in the presentation will be touching on some of those areas.
Highway safety, I think is a real strong message that has come out loud and clear in this bill.
And I think everybody from the safety advocates to the administration to all the state groups involved from the governor's highway safety association to ASHTA to the National Association of Chiefs of Police,
to AMVA, all strongly supported increases on the safety program.
On the FHWA side, it's a substantial boost from about 500 million as 10% of the STP program in prior law, to now a new separate core area rising to 3.1 million by '09.
Our members strongly supported the safety plan.
What's important is it looks at all roadways, not just those that are under state ownership, and not just highway construction, look at the need for new laws, the need for enforcement,
the needs for education, it's going to require all of the partners coming together and have a very strong comprehensive safety plan that the governor endorses.
Funding flexibility, a limited amount our members had suggested a little more, but it allows some flexibility of the highway construction side to the softer side within the highway safety improvement program.
Another important dimension is within the transportation planning process itself, a separation of the safety and security planning factors.
They very much are distinct and the transit area funds to blend a lot closer together because of the he mechanisms in which fixed rail and urban transit had had a very strong safety,continuing also doing safety work.
In the highway area, it's different trying to save lives than what is needed on the national level.
We're going to have to look at those two issues separately.
In the area of transparency, something very strongly pushed in the Senate language, states are going to have to show publicly there were road projects, not just under their ownership, but the entire state there,
will be a much more and greater push toward identifying problem areas both in the comprehensive safety planning as well as in the transparency requirement on poor roads within the count.
Rural-road safety is a new program pushed by many of the local governments, it focuses on roadways down at the local roads and collector roads and rural areas, 90 million dollars a year apportioned to all states,
it's to be sent on those roadways that have the poor safety records both in their fatalities and serious injuries.
It will require comprehensive information on every road.
All 4 million miles of road in this country.
Another new program that is in both the House and Senate bills safe routes the school.
It starts at 180 million a year, every state shares in that, every state has the names, a full-time safe routes to administer that program.
Sanctions with both ASTHTA and state DOTs oppose new sanctions.
Existing sanctions were codified and so I think you have on the 402 programs, the grant recipients who get those half are state DOTs ,
the other half go to governor safety offices, it's simplified the process, but a very strong safety package overall.
Safety belts, new incentive programs to push primary seat belt laws.
Increases in safety data efforts to each of the states comes out of the programs, in the R&D program, the safety management system which would be he really important to develop the softwares so states can really address safety issues.
And funding for clearinghouses as well as training programs.
In the area of environmental streamlining, I think tremendous gains made and not at the expense of the environment, because the bill also very strongly supports environmental enhancement issues,
and environmental cooperative research programs, but streamlining the process, mandated for EIS's work.
Streamlined processes will have to be put in place.
In addition, greater flexibility on grant recipients to work with resource centers to ease the process of applications and processing of EIS's and other environmental documents very, very important.
Delegation of CEs or categorical exclusions available to all the states and pilots in five states to have full delegation, it will be a real test to see whether or not a state can carry out
and be able to assign a decision under this pilot delegation, so it will be a real challenge and a real opportunity I think.
Environmental streamlining, historic preservation areas, really enhance and change in terms of the simplification.
Our members were very keen on wanting to get an interstate exemption,
but still for those areas of the interstate that may have historic significance in terms of older bridges that were incorporated you'll still have to deal with those issues.
Just because the system is 50 years old does not make it historically significant, it needs to be improved.
For ITs, it says CEO for projects.
I guess it would be important that CEO's focus on projects, that was a typo, it should be CE's for projects, categorical exclusions,
US DOT will have to modify the current regs to see that right now many ITs related projects are granted as categorical conclusions, they'll have to add to those so it makes it easier for grant recipients.
The last couple areas I'll touch on conformity and the role of the planning process.
Metropolitan areas really needed to come to terms with being able to meet environmental goals in the area of their quality, but do it in a much more coordinated fashion and lots of improvements that will help NPO's in the planning process,
updating the cycle for plans, better coordination of tips and stipulates with update cycles, aligning the time horizon, greater reliability without substitutions.
I mean, just smart things to do that make sense and don't by any means take away from air quality attainment.
In fact, it will make air quality attainment much more easy.
I'll mention eligibility here and Jeff will probably mention different ones within the CMAC program.
I will shortly will turn the program over to Jeff, who will focus on the ITs operations and freight provisions in this very historic act and for more detailed information on the whole series of the issues I've talked about,
there will be four briefing sessions on September 17th in Nashville, Tennessee as part of NASHTA's annual meeting in all the areas I've talked about and in the areas Jeff will talk about as well.
Thank you, Tony.
You are able to go ahead and type questions intoed small box at the bottom of your screen, you don't have to wait until the end of the session, we can go back through and answer those at the end.
With that, I'd like to introduce our next speaker, Jeff Lindley.
He became director of the federal highway office of transportation management in January 2000, he directs the staff responsible for federal highway policies and programs related to transportation management
and deployment of intelligence systems, immediately prior to this appointment, he served as the FHWA California division administrator where he led the nation's largest federal aide program.
He joined the federal highway administration in 1985 as a highway research engineer, he later held positions as a traffic management ITs specialist and as the branch chief and team leader and the ITs applications in Washington, D.C.
In 1996 he was named the deputy director of the ITs joint program office, and managed a variety of ITs activities, including development of FHWA's proposal for reauthorization, and the ITs program as part of T-21.
Prior to joining federal highway, he held positions in the private sector and with the U.S. air force.
With that, I'll turn it over to Jeff.
Thank you, Valerie.
Good afternoon, everybody, or good morning as the case may be.
I wanted to give you a follow-on to that great lead in from Tony.
On the general provisions within the reauthorization, I wanted to give you a quick summary of the management operations provisions including freight suggestion management and ITs.
It will be pretty quick, it will be a quick tour through some of those provisions.
As we mentioned earlier, the presentation will be on the NTOC website and our website.
You'll see that at the end.
It seems like we've been working on implementation forever.
It's actually only been six weeks it really does seem like forever, but we're working really hard on guidance and plans for rule making and other implementation activities, so this is the beginning of the process not the end.
I would encourage to you ask questions either online or at the end and we're happy to answer as many of those as we can during this time we have today.
As I said, I'm going to cover in some detail the congestion mitigation, ITs and freight areas.
In terms of congestion mitigation, there are three areas that are contained within the bill that we think kind of deserves special mention in a standalone fashion.
Congestion management, I'll talk for a few minutes about that, several parts of the bill cover realtime information and we'll talk for a little bit about that as well as the ITs provisions in the ITs program.
In the congestion management area, first thing to mention is funding, there is, of course, as Tony mentioned a lot more money in this bill for a lot more things, including projects that are focussed on congestion management.
All of the core federal categories including FHS and STP, CMAC, there's additional language in the CMAC program that's focussed on transportation that makes that a very clearly eligible activity.
Tony mentioned the highways for life program which is not completely focussed on operations, of course,
but there is a strong focus in that program on the reducing construction side and avoiding congestion which has been a focus of our work zone projects.
And highlight projects, throughout the reauthorization, we have a tendency to think of those as separate projects, but if you look at the list of projects, there's a bunch of them,
there's over 5,000 projects mentioned in the bill, but if you were to go back and look at the high priority projects from last time.
You wouldn't see very much ITs or congestion management or operation or freight.
If you look at that same list now you see a lot of those things, there is many for projects in that fashion as well.
One thing I'll pause here, we don't have a slide on it, we've really just kind of focussed on it in the last couple days.
One thing in the bill is a reconstitution of the congestion management systems requirements that some 6 you may be familiar with that go back to IT.
There's now a requirement for IT processes in Metropolitan areas over 200,000, it's very much focussed on creating a using a process that would get at developing projects to deal with congestion management issues.
Well be preparing some new guidance on that requirement, so stay tuned on that there's also a little bit of convince and language in the planning process section that deals directly with congestion management
and management and operations and how that's considered in the planning process.
That we think will help states and MPO's incorporate more of a focus on congestion management into their planning work.
In terms of tolling provisions, Tony mentioned that earlier briefly, the bill continues the existing value pricing program.
It provides some additional funding for that program.
And it continues to have a requirement, a maximum of 15 states can participate in that program.
15 states already exist under the existing program, so there's room for one more state to get in on the program.
And there is some new funding there.
There's a brand new program on express lane projects, demonstration projects, that is specifically focussed on projects that manage congestion and improve air quality.
But only on new or existing toll or HOV capacity.
There's no separate funding for this, but there's an ability nor 15 projects to be approved under this program.
There's also an inter-operability requirement in the statute in this program for any automated -- there's a requirement that states use automatic toll collections for these projects
and also a requirement that DOT establish inter-operability standards for the toll collection processes.
We're already working on that.
We've established a schedule for rule making on that, we'll be working on that over the next several months.
We're working on guidance for this brand new program, we'll need to put out something on that and we're very likely -- although it's not a done deal,
we're very likely to put out something that tries to jointly talk about all of the places in reauthorization where toll projects can be pursued.
There's not only the value pricing program, this program, there's an interstate reconstruction, pilot there's an interstate construction pilot program.
Now, there's also some language in the HOV section on hot lane.
We're going to try to pull all of that together, try to make some sense out of it and give folks some sense of what their options are with regard to tolling
and if they're thinking about pursuing a particular kind of project, which one of these programs it might best fit into.
I mentioned the HOV facilities section 1121.
States are now permitted to create hot lanes, pretty much wherever and whenever they choose to, previously that could only be done on the valued pricing programs,
states can also permit low emission energy efficient vehicles to use excess capacity in HOV lanes, that includes hybrid vehicles, which was something that we were interested in pursuing.
Comes with a catch, to create hot lanes, can you allow hybrid vehicles to use HOV lanes but phone you continuously monitor the performance of the system,
and continue to provide a high level of service for all users of the facility, and if that means taking some of the single occupant vehicles off the HOV lanes, then that needs to be done as well.
State that is want to participate in the flexibilities need to certify to DOT that that will be the case.
We're already working with California and Virginia.
California has a program that they have proposed to implement this flexibility.
Virginia has an existing program that predated that we're working with them on to make sure both of those programs are consistent with the new federal statutory requirements.
In terms of research, there is a new surface transportation congestion relief solutions program, provides 36 million dollars over four-years for research,
and an additional 3 million dollars over training and technical assistance, all focus on congestion measurement and reporting and congestion relief.
And we're still figuring out what kinds of projects we're going to pursue under that program.
Tony mentioned the F-sharp program that was, in fact, included.
Although the original was proposed over 6 years this is a 205 million dollar program over 4 years,
and the national academy of sciences is going to need to figure out how to carry out how much of the original research program that they'll be able to carry out.
There are four focus areas of that program including transportation system reliability and reducing nonrecurring congestion, obviously the area we're most interested in, so we'll be working with the NIS on that.
There is a brand new program on realtime system management information that's designed to establish a capability in all states to provide realtime monitoring of traffic conditions and sharing of information.
There's no separate funding provided for that program, but there is very clear eligibility under the programs.
There's thoughts that this be included in IT architectures and there's also a requirement that US DOT establish data exchange format that would allow this nationwide capability to exist in an inter-operable fashion,
in which we would be required to establish the data exchange format every two-years, and we think that's easily doable.
There's also in the ITs research language, there's a 511 deployment goal established.
We've been working toward a deployment currently a deployment goal of 50% of the population to have access to 511 by the end of this calendar year and we're going to fall a little bit short of that for this year,
but we do have a lot of activities underway and plan to help folks get their 511 system underway, and deployed.
Now we have a national goal to help do that.
Activities to deploy traffic monitoring infrastructure in Metropolitan areas, there's an existing contract we have with mobility technologies to do that.
the statute adds 22 new eligible cities, it requires that we complete the existing contract with mobility technologies which we will do.
There's still funding for 11 states under that project.
It also creates part 2 of the program that needs to be procured with any remaining money from the program and any new appropriated funds.
There's language that allows funds to be appropriated from this program that does not provide any contract authorities, so that would be dependent on the appropriations process.
If that all sounded a little confusing, it is.
And we intend to put a solicitation of interest in this program that will fully explain to the eligible Metropolitan areas what their options are for participation.
We hope to get that out around October 1st.
With regard to ITs, funding for ITs will remain strained throughout the federal aide program.
That was largely the case before, there's now very clear eligibility under the 4 federal aid programs for ITs deployment activities.
Tony mentioned that there is a categorical exclusion requirement, we are working on rule making for that already with the office of environmental planning.
The ITs deployment, separate funding for ITs deployment is provided only for the earmarks that Congress massed through the appropriations process last year, there is no other separate category of ITs deployment.
There is money for C-vision deployment, I'll talk about that briefly in a second.
And again,ITs is the focus of a bunch of the high priority demonstration projects, I've listed a few on this slide.
This is taken from a list, comprehensive list of projects that ITs America put together on ITs projects in the earmarks, and there is quite a bit there, you wouldn't have found that six-years ago.
The C-vision funding which will go to the federal motor carrier safety administration is designed to complete C-vision deployment across the U.S. over the next four-years.
We think there is just about enough funding here to do that, it creates a couple different kinds of deployment grants that can be made to states that you see listed on the slide
so if you're in a state that has not finished their C-vision deployment, there's funding that can be applied to that that will be available.
The ITs research program was reauthorized, it's a 550 million dollar program over 5 years, which is about the level that it was authorized under T-21.
There are a couple of key earmarks, one for road weather research, 20 million dollars over that period of time, a larger earmark for the I-95 corridor coalition,
and a smaller earmark for a rural interstate quarter communications study and I can check those section numbers that are listed for details of those earmarks.
There is a new advisory committee for the ITs program that's required that we were pretty far down the path of doing that anyway, prior to the passage of reauthorization.
And lastly the legislation is silent on the location of the ITs program office within U.S. DOT, some of you may be aware that there are plans to move the ITs-JPO to the research innovative technology --
and those plans will move forward now because there's no language in reauthorization that would not allow that to happen.
There's no timetable yet for that move, but that's the direction that the department is moving.
Lastly, let me say a few words about the key freight elements within the bill.
There are a number of new programs that are either directly or indirectly focussed on freight, there are a few provisions that are directly related to freight financing and then there's a new research and technology program.
In terms of the direct freight programs, there are a couple, one is a new program on inter-model distribution pilot grant.
Provides funding to address infrastructure and freight distribution needs, there is a relatively small amount of money provided for that program only 30 million dollars over the course of the program.
And it's fully earmarked for 6 projects in five states.
There is a new program on truck parking facilities that's a pilot program designed to address the long-term parking shortage on the national highway system for trucks.
It includes modifying existing facilities, using ITs technology to identify available parking.
There is 25 million dollars in that program.
Again, a pretty modest amount of money, and it is discretionary.
Well be looking for good projects to fund with that money.
There are a couple of freight related programs, the national infrastructure improvement program provides funding for construction of highway projects in corridors of national significance.
Those of you that are familiar with the T-21, there was a corridor and borders program, those were split apart, this is the corridor element of that.
Paramount money provided all earmarked.
All focussed on international regional trade type projects.
But a lot of freight-related projects there.
There is a program for projects of regional and national significance designed to provide money to states for high cost projects that will generate benefits at the national and regional level.
Again, a fair amount of money provided but only earmarked for a specific project, both passenger and freight related.
There is an application process for this program that's being developed that will require the recipients of those projects to demonstrate how they meet the requirements of the program.
But the locations have been earmarked and identified.
There is a coordinated border infrastructure program.
That's the formula program, money close to the states, a fair amount of money available there.
Includes the projects that would improve both the passenger and freight travel at the border.
Borders with Canada and Mexico, and then those last two bullets refer to the primary location of the earmarks still and again a lot of freight projects there as well.
There are some provisions that will make freight financing easier that will allow rail facilities private.
Rail facilities inter-model facilities to be financed with TIPIA dollars.
Provisions that will allow private activity financing to be pursued for rail truck transfer facilities, and a couple provisions in the rail title that will be administered by the Federal Railroad Administration
relative to grants and loan authority for rail projects, which obviously will have an impact on the freight that's moved on highways and other modes as well.
So several key rate financing provisions.
In the research and training arena, a couple of new programs, one is the National Cooperative Freight Transportation Research program.
It will be administered by the national academy of sciences, similar to the NCHRP program and will pursue a broad research agenda in the freight arena.
There's also a freight planning capacity building program and is funded out of the training and education portion of the research dollars.
That is focussed on helping the transportation community be better prepared to deal with activities like training courses and technical assistance,
analysis tools and those sorts of things that should be helpful in helping the transportation community gain a better focus on freight issues.
Kind of to summarize, there's a significant increase in the focus of congestion relief.
You could have gone back six-years for congestion in T-21 and not found too many references.
There's some new opportunities, managed lanes, bowling, HOV, flexibility, realtime information, places where there's clearly an opportunity for management and operation type activities to take place.
There's still a strong ITs R&D program, still a commitment to that.
There's significantly expanded level of attention to freight needs that didn't exist before.
And there's also a fairly strong congestion related research and development program and as Tony mentioned earlier, there is still some question of how we fund operations research that isn't focussed on congestion,
like research on traffic control devices, and we have not worked that out yet.
There -- it's likely that we're going to be pretty constrained in a couple of key research areas that are not directly focussed on congestion.
And that's it, those are the web addresses for the more general information on safety from FHWA and our web tight where you can get more information on the management operations ITs and freight provisions.
Great.
Thank you.
We have a panel who is going to provide just a few comments on what this bill means to their constituencies, we were supposed to have Rich Weaver from the American public transportation association,
unfortunately, Rich had a family emergency so isn't with us, our two panelists are Shelly Row from the institute of transportation engineers
who will be saying a few words about how this bill affects local government and de lane in a hardy from the association of Metropolitan planning organizations who will do the same for MPO.
Shelly, do you want to start out?
Sure, thank you, valley, I appreciate the opportunity to participate in the web conference.
As Valerie mentioned, from an ITE perspective, we have a wide range of members from state local governments, transportation planners, a lot of consulting firms and universities,
a lot of people have talked about some of those other constituencies so I will just target my remarks on the ITE local government members and some of our thoughts about that.
First of all, let me just echo what's already been said that we too are very glad to see that the bill is passed, we're very pleased that there is more money in this bill than there was in the previous one, and like Jeff said,
we believe that there are some good opportunities for management and operations and that is certainly a very important issue to our local government members.
A couple of provisions that we're particularly interested in and we'll be looking forward to working together with others to get them implemented and have them useful for local governments, the hot lanes, the HOV provisions,
I think that's going to be a very good provision with a lot of interest that we hear from our members in that area, so we are excited about seeing some additional tension and focusing on the HOV hot lanes.
The realtime management system 1 another area that we're excited about, it provides information to the state and local governments, I think ITE believes very strongly that having regional sharing of information is a good thing.
It helps the system operate regionally as an integrated unit and I think it's good for all of the state colors involved.
We're excited about that provision and about the opportunities to have common data exchange formats and make sure we share that data in a fashion.
Also, I think there are some opportunities in the CMAC area.
There's some language that provides emphasis on projects that reduce emissions air quality benefits and Delana may say more about that ITE members in a lot of respects have those types of projects that they're interested in,
traffic projects in for the management, I think a lot of those things fit very nicely in some of that language that we see in this CMAC provision.
Also in the planning provisions, I'll let Delana talk about that.
We're pleased to see emphasis on coordination.
I think that is a good thing for regional cooperation.
We're happy about the categorical exclusion for the ITS projects.
Jeff may want to say a couple words, there were some provisions pertaining to work zones, Tony mentioned some of the recent regulations that have come out, there were some other provisions that were called for,
in the legislation relative to regulations for law enforcement, positive protection through barriers so we're anxious to work with FHWA to see how that language can be implemented in a way that also meets state and local government needs.
We are excited about the research provisions, we share the concern that Jeff highlighted and Tony as well about what earmarks could do to the funding for research.
We also share's Jeff's concern for funding for noncongestion related research.
He pointed out in his slide about the METCD.
That is a major document that is of daily use to ITE members and ASHTA members and others, we are very interested in doing anything we can to support FHWA
as they seek to figure out how to handle that -- one other thing I would like to make mention of.
I understand there's a provision related to weather research.
Depending on how that goes, it's an area that could be of great interest also to again state and local governments, certainly surface transportation,
weather has a big impact on the operations of the system, so we're anxious to see what that might hold in the way of research opportunities.
As they may pertain to state and local governments.
That's all I have, Valerie.
Thank you.
Delana?
I feel like so much has already been covered Sao I'll be pretty brief as well.
Going through our punch list, one of the things we were very pleased to have happen was an increase in our planning funds.
Hopefully this will allow our members the opportunity to do more and do some more thoroughly, with the CMAC program, as many of you mentioned, the added flexibility is certainly something that our members are pleased with.
And I guess one thing that -- looking at some of the questions that have cropped up, someone did ask about using CMAC to fund operations beyond three years, and that only happens if you're in Montana.
If you're for the enough to live there, then that will be an added bonus for you.
The flexibility in the CMAC program we're very pleased with, we do have some concerns though, because the fine standard is not funded under the CMAC program, a lot of our members are nervous about this.
In terms of date tax our members are going to be looking at a lot of new things now, habitat sensitivity data, et cetera,
a lot more in terms of economic data, and we have some concerns that we may not have the access to this information that we may need.
But we do think that looking at these things will give us a better view in terms of planning and being able to plan more effectively.
In that same regard as Shelly mentioned with coordination, we now have a lot more folks that we have to bring to the table in terms of -- beyond the state and local partners that we typically have,
folks from natural resource agencies, environment, conservation, historic preservation, and so I think that that will allow for a more aggressive planning process, and certainly a Morrow bust front end approach to planning.
In terms of research funding.
As you all have already mentioned, the capacity building program has been very important to the NPO community
and we were very disheartened to learn that at least on the FHWA side of that house, that the majority of it is already spoken for.
But we are pleased to see some of the other elements in terms of research, the new state safety plan and the data that can come out of that and hopefully make our roads safer.
And on the whole, we're very pleases as everyone else has mentioned as the bill finally got past.
I guess with that, I'd be happy to just turn it over to answering questions since I see as they keep stacking up.
Thank you again for including us.
There are a number of questions and I don't think we'll get through all of them.
If we do not get to your question, post it on the forum we can have some continued discussion of the questions through the forum.
I'd like to start with, there are a number of questions here about the funding ledgeability for operations, I'd like to direct the question to Jeff about that.
Is it only CMAC that's changed and are there real significant changes in Ridge ledgeability for operations to be funded under the core program.
There's specific language related to CMAC that makes ledgeability very clear.
We were interpreting most of those activities as legible prior to this.
There is specific language that has existed in P-21 or prior in a couple of indications or IFS and management and operation projects to be legible under all of the core federal aid programs, including CMAC, NHS.
So if folks can't get their management operations or ITs funded, it's not because it's not legible, it's very clear that those activities are reachable.
Okay, so there is a couple specific questions here related to ledgeability for funding operations and management within TMC's and funding traffic signal projects,
so what I'm hearing from you is that those were eligible before and are still legible.
The operational costs are legible only in the NHS and SDP programs or an indefinite basis as someone mentioned, I think Delana mentioned the three-year limitation on the program.
But for capital costs --
Okay.
There were also a number of questions posted here about the new safety programs in the bill, the bill has a strong emphasis on safety, and in particular,
how will these programs affect local governments and there are funding levels to support local government participation in the safety programs?
So I think I'll direct this one to Tony?
Sure, I think a similar answer like Jeff mentioned, before I mention the new provision is the fact that safety was in the current core programs, whether it's interstate 4R, the national highway system or the service transportation program.
The old interim guarantee or the new equity bonus program.
Specifically with regard to the highway safety improvement program which is a very large new program adopted, all public roads are eligible.
That's all 4 million miles of roadways are eligible.
I think what's going to make that eligibility more apparent is the fact that there's a comprehensive safety plan required which is going to have to look at targeting all roadways with improvements from the physical side
as well as enforcement activities as well as education and training activities.
The local governments are going to be part of that process of trying to have a comprehensive safety plan enacted.
I think it's important to look at not just the infrastructure side of the house, the only some 15 states have eligibility for automated enforcement right now with 22 local jurisdictions using that,
we certainly think that's something that should be used much more extensively in local governments to have a key role in that.
A new program was created called the high-risk rural safety program.
That's specifically targeted or called functionally classified rural major and minor collectors and local roads and streets.
It's all the way down to the subdivision roadways and specifically targeted to those that have higher than statewide average fatality and serious injury rates,
there's another place where local governments will have a key role in identifying and helping to identify what those priorities are, in addition,
there's a transparency requirement to report the 5% worst roadways in the country in each state which is inclusive of all roadways, again, local governments have a key role there separating the planning and security safety
and security planning factors that the NPO's should as part of the planning process more critically look at what is needed in the safety area to produce fatalities,
I think if you look at the broadest perspective that the rising level of funding affects everybody just means that lots of funding for SDP for NHS, et cetera,
does trickle down to roadways that are owned by local governments, in addition to new safety programs targeted is where we'll really meet the bigger role in play in the safety arena.
There's a related posting.
Will the states be encouraged to sub allocate safety funds to NPO's for better targeting safety programs at the local level.
Allocation implies a priority allocation.
I think states will be working with NPO's encouraged to look at all the safety issues that exist on roadways that are functionally at lower levels and owned by local governments as well as state governments.
I think it's important to recognize the differences in diversity across the state.
That in many states such as West Virginia, Virginia and North Carolina, Delaware, over 95% of the roadways are owned by the state government.
In other states like employers and California, only 9% of the roads are owned by state government.
So functionally classified lower level roadways does not necessarily mean that local governments own that them.
There's two different distinct factors, I think the answer is yes, I would use the word sub-allocate.
It's kind of a non-priority decision, I would say that it will be greater concentration and effort of applying the safety dollars to where the problems are.
Delana did you want to add anything about NPO's and --
The only thing I was going to add on was that the state strategic highway safety plan it does require greater coordination with NP Pess in terms of putting that together.
I think that's a good opportunity for NPO's to be a little more engaged with their state partners.
I totally agree, in addition, in the broader sense, for all, even on safety projects, that the statutes have emphasized local involvement to a greater degree.
Great.
Let's switch to another topic here, there was a question posted about the new realtime information system program and whether states will be required to implement realtime information, and how that's going to work.
How that program is going to work.
Jeff, do you want to tackle that one?
Sure.
Tony is shaking his head no and I'm shaking my head yes here.
You guys can't see that.
That will be -- Kevin obviously finished our thinking on this program.
We hope to have some guide answer out by the end of the calendar year.
There was a provision in the program the way that we proposed it that would have required statewide incident reporting systems and that provision was specifically removed by the Congress.
So it seems that they did not want a hard and fast requirement for states to all implement this capability in a required fashion.
On the other hand think did crow ate a program that calls for a nationwide deployment of this capability in all states.
What does that mean?
It sounds like federal double-talk.
We're going to strongly encourage everybody to deploy this capability not because it's in the statute.
But because we think it's the right thing to do.
And that doesn't have to mean deploying a lot of technology, a lot of expensive devices, it can mean things simpler than that in smaller states in rural states, and I think the point was,
to get a capability in place that would allow public agencies in states to share information on travel conditions and to be able to share that information with the public as well.
How exactly we're going to rap guidance around that intent, stay tuned.
If I could add, another opportunity for local governments and state governments to be working much more closely together because the law implies a geographic area called the state.
Within that you have 3500 counties, several hundred thousand townships and municipalities and 50 states, it's really to have realtime information on your system,
it means within the Metropolitan area, hundreds of towns, counties, cities and the state have to work hand in hand to try to pull that off.
And again, it's something that, perhaps NPO's can take a stronger look at as they look at the whole transportation planning process.
Okay.
Kelly or Delana do you have anything you wanted to add to that.
This is Shelly.
I'm not sure I can add any more than has been said.
I think it's a real opportunity to have some data sharing between a lot of the governmental agencies and I think that's good for all of our citizens.
There's no dedicated funding provided for it, anything we can do to work with the IT members and other associations to articulate why this is a good thing to do and the right thing to do, we're looking forward to that opportunity.
Okay.
Let's move on to some of the research provisions, in was a question posted related to research.
One thing we heard about the research provisions is they're oversubscribed in this bill.
I'd like to ask Tony a little bit about what that means and what the implications are for the research program.
The specific question that was posted earlier was related to the fact that much of the research is earmarked and so is there any advice that we have for organizations that didn't receive an earmark?
What can they expect?
My advice is don't ask for additional ones.
It will only make the problem worse.
I say that tongue in cheek.
Obviously you have an appropriations process each year where appropriators make changes to the package it not in terms of total dollars, but in terms of earmarking.
I think the problem this time around was not in the sense of earmarks, but within what we call decision nations,
big blocks of the research money that said you had to spend X amount for long-term bridge monitoring or X amount for pavement research, aggregate research.
The total of all of those decision nations and earmarks exceeded the total amount exercised for the program.
If you take both of those things together you may be oversubscribed by about 25% or more.
So it's a very significant issue, and if you take a look at the historical areas that researchers had been spent on in the areas of working with the transportation research board
and some of their research activities and technology sharing in terms of HWA printing technology reports and working on that technical assistance and things that Jeff normally mentioned,
things that the policy office has worked on in terms of the Congress that needs studies, unfunded and so how do you deal with that?
I mean, solutions will have to be made for that.
There's the potential correction of bills, who knows if that will ever happen, results with the potential to work with.
With the appropriations committees each year to try to -- I should say be able to deal with those over decision nations in order to manage the program more efficiently,
and then federal highways will have to look very carefully at interpretation for eligibility of those decision nations, perhaps there's greater flexibility that might be apparent on first blurb, it's a real problem,
I've spoken to many groups and encouraged no one to go seek additional earmarks, it's a real problem for us, I think with the first blush, saying the program grew substantially, is good news in one regard.
But the federal highway program is to really hamper by what's in there, and I think they'll have to be a lot of careful work interpreting what's in.
There working with the appropriation committees to create a little more latitude and here to for there had been language in appropriation acts allowing at least a 5% flexibility with the line items to move it around to different areas.
So I think that there's enough said right now, the situation is known, it's going to be dealt with, and then I think within those --
some of the areas of research, like ITs there, were people who wanted to keep working with the federal highway administration,
joint program office to develop either a contractual or agreement mechanism for funding research that's needed both by individual areas and by the government in total and the nation as a whole.
Tony, somewhat related follow-up question is, what is the status of the 2006 highway appropriations?
Well, it's in play, obviously, there's lots of stuff happening right now with major emphasis going on supplemental appropriations and obviously what's needed for Katrina,
and again as in previous years, the government is going to be faced with many, many appropriation Bills that are on a completed at this point in time.
And so 9 status is very much delayed from that.
I think the biggest, one of the biggest concerns of both the U.S. DOT and certainly the states of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana are the additional funds that are going to be needed for emergency relief,
and we're talking about billions of dollars, and the emergency relief money that was authorized is 100 million per year,
which is already spent in terms of past object gas stations and needs, that will be great work for the Congress to deal with that issue, and probably have to come out of the general fund rather than stress fund.
I don't know, Jeff, anything you want to add on the appropriations act or Shelly or Delana?
I was going to ask a question, how soon do you all from our federal partners, that it would be that we'll actually know how much is left?
Do you have any time line?
I'm sorry, left where?
In the core programs for what is not earmarked.
We have gotten a lot of questions from our members about how much is going to be left over.
I mean, I know the research tight sell really overspoken for, but really what the breakdown would be for CMAC and NHS and all the other core programs.
Those are established.
And where can we get that information?
Federal Highway's website has all of those fact sheets on the programs and authorization levels we have.
I've got the fact sheets.
And apportionments that are developed already as well.
We have the apportionments too.
We had gotten mixed signals from FHWA in terms of whether or not the fact sheets were correct with their numbers but we'll go with that thank you.
Okay.
I'd like to move on to a question that was reiterated here about the congestion management system.
Jeff mentioned congestion management system requirements and there's a question here about whether federal highway will be providing guidance on those, Jeff?
Yeah.
We intend to update the congestion management system regulations.
We're working in conjunction with the office of planning within FHWA and the office of planning within FDA office as well.
To update those regulations.
Because of the regulatory nature of that process, that will probably carry well into 2006, but we are working on that, there will be be two recognize that will come out on the program.
If you go into the statute I think what you'll find is there's new terms there, there's emphasis there, there's not a total revamping of the congestion management requirement that folks are used to from the existing regulations.
So it's more of an evolution not a new requirement.
But we are working on regulations on that already.
What I encourage people to keep typing in questions, we still have about ten minutes here, and we'd be happy to answer any more questions you have you.
In the meantime, let's talk a little bit more about the MPOs.
What types of data challenges do the MPOs see as they attempt to meet the new requirements in safety, particularly those related to operations in ITs.
As I mentioned earlier, I think what we've heard most from our members, is that they're worried about data access, and certain resources we've understood have not been forthcoming sharing data with some of our members,
we are a little bit worried also about how underfunded BTS is in light of some of the requirements we'll be faced with.
So I think it mostly comes down to access and in terms of being able to get to the different sources because we're not limited now to just transportation related data,
we're looking at a host of other things more so than ever, standardization making sure that that data is transferable and easy to manipulate.
How to manage all of the data, and the requirements as I mentioned previously now have everything from historic preservation to environment and so it's just a whole new set of requirements that we have taken into consideration,
as I'm sure you all can imagine for some of our smaller and medium sized MPOs they really may have difficulty getting on top of all of the new data considerations.
Okay.
I'd like to go back to one of the questions that was posted here about the transportation technology innovation and demonstration program.
The bill says the contract provision in part 2 must be the same.
Must be as the secretary considers to be appropriate.
Can you discuss I guess Jeff, what that might look like?
Yeah, to answer that, we haven't quite figured that out yet.
As I said in the presentation, part one of that program involves an existing contract, and there will be an opportunity that will be outlined in the solicitations we hope to release around October 1st
for eligible areas to express some interest in becoming part of that part of the program and essentially signing on to the existing contract.
Part 2 of the program which we're also going to ask folks if they're interested in signing on to the statute requires --
I shouldn't say it that way, the statute gives the department much more flexibility in terms of how to struck tour that all the particulars of however we decide to do it,
it does require that it be competitively procured but the particulars of how that will be implemented are basically left to the department and we're going to have to figure that out.
We haven't yet.
the solicitation is going to cover participation and who's interested in participating in what part.
Okay.
There is another question posted here that goes back to the congestion management system requirements.
Would you expect that the new requirements will address nonrecurring suggestions.
That is one of the factors that we are looking at as part of that.
One of the issues with the way that congestion gets considered and solutions to congestion at the local level is whether all problems are being looked at
and so how nonrecurring congestion gets dealt with is one of the issues we are wrestling with to figure out how to redraft those regulations.
And then there's also a question here asking for some clarification about the earmarks mentioned in Tony's presentation, Tony mentioned that there were 19.4 billion in earmarks,
and would -- is this what we do indeed consider to be the regulations?
Yes, that was on the highway side and transit side.
Similarly on the bus program for a number of ITs projects earmarked a very sizable amount.
She's are on the highway programs, they're the major categories, the high priority projects, projects of nation 58 and regional significance
and a new category called transportation improvement projects and as I mentioned, they're quite substantial.
They add up to about a little under 10% of the total program, hundreds and hundreds of projects of the Congress did pry a little bit of flexibility in terms of the ability to move around a budget authority,
contract authority with other projects as long as they were stored.
As many of you know, it's kind of a lumpy process trying to build projects, the ability to move flexibility around and also on expanse or existing projects that move some money out of those as well.
But that's, you know, there will also be a number of smaller earmarks, things that come out of the R&D titles, this was looking at the major grant capital program.
And most of them, by the way are something called Inscope meaning they're counted toward your equity bonus program.
So many of the states are really hampered by this because it's not money over and above your bottom line, you get a lower equity bonus calculations so each state can guarantee by 2009 total return.
Where they're located is problematic as well.
Many times they're not by the state or MPO priorities, you don't have tremendous local support for them many times and match problems and problems of having not necessarily the adequate amount of funds to build them.
But thinking about operating and maintaining the earmarked projects.
Certainly problematic and they're not a free ride for the most part.
Most of them are called in scope, a lot of them are out of scope meaning states bonus equity funds would not be impacted by getting those earmarks.
Jeff, do you have any thoughts on how the people on this conference call or the in talk member associations will be involved in developing details of some of the provisions like the congestion management system provisions and others.
It sort of depends on the nature of what we're actually up to.
If we're in the process of doing rule making, there's a very well established laid out process where there will be plenty of opportunities for public Input in a very formalized fashion.
If we're doing something more informal than that, it's likely that well seek out opinions and Input from the community, probably a number of different ways.
If you do have Input nothing says you can't provide it to us at any time.
Can you do that as well.
There will be some opportunity to provide Input on all of the areas.
Another way it's being done is taking advantage of opportunity that is may present themselves in national venues, for example, the annual meeting comes up this weekend,
we'll be having a whole series of reauthorization sessions and virtually every associate administrator is going to be part of those
and have an opportunity to answer questions react to efforts, as well as national forums, in November there will be a very substantial PRB sponsored effort on data implications for safety.
There will be a real large forum bringing academics, governments, et cetera involved in that.
All right.
Well, great, we're just about to the end of our time here, so I wanted to see if Shelly or Delana had any comments that you wanted to put forward before we close?
This is Delana, I did want to put in a quick plug for the MPOs on the phone.
Well be standing out shortly a planning and operations analysis tools user survey, and we're trying to get this going, we're working with our federal partners on this,
because it is actually going to help feed into the guidance that will come out on the new congestion management process.
So the more information the better data that we have will help give our federal partners the information they need to work on the guidance and the other information on that new requirement.
Okay.
Shelly, did you have anything?
No, Valerie, just to thank everyone for letting us be a participant.
All right.
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