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At this time I would like to introduce Dave Helman, the moderator of today's webcast.
He is the program manager for the U.S. Federal Highway Administration in Washington D.C.
He guides the development and execution and assessment of the Federal Highway TIM program and guidance to the public and private sector partners and Federal Highway field offices.
He is a founder and ex-officio member of the Traffic Management Coalition.
He serves on committees of the research board.
Several research panels of the cooperative research program and the Tripoli Standards Working Group.
He served on the working group of the National Fire Service Incident Management System Consortium that developed model procedure guise for highway incidents
and on another group of the Association of America that developed the traffic incident of the plan.
Also known as TIM.
Prior to joining Federal Highway, he served as safety programs engineer and in the West Virginia Department of Highways and was a senior associate with the National Traffic Consulting firm
and he holds bachelors from University of Illinois and Rock Ford college and holds degrees in engineering and he is a registered professional engineer.
Now we will turn things over to David who will introduce our first speaker.
I am going to first welcome everybody on the webcast.
I see we have 71 people now in attendance.
And before I introduce April Armstrong, I am going to make a few opening remarks myself.
About traffic and management performance measurement and about the general structure of today's webcast.
The webcast will focus around a State Initiative Federal Highway Administration currently under way in 11 states and on performance measurement,
and April Armstrong will from NSIC will summarize where we are with that workshop and within a few minutes, with that initiative in a few minutes
and she will be followed by presentations from Bill Legg from Washington State D.O.T. and from Paul Clarke from the Florida D.O.T.; and Washington and Florida are two of the is one states that are wrestling with technology here.
Traffic incident management is an activity that no one agency owns and not core function of one agency even from the ones that own the facility of.
There are many part participants however in managing and in preparation for and communications surrounding traffic incidents.
And traffic incident management programs are multi agency and in their very structure and I say multi agency,
I should say multi partnered because some of the most, some of the important partners are not agencies at all but private sector organizations.
And so to be properly planned and coordinated and executed a management program needs to be strategically based and that is have program goals that are mutually agreed to by the participating agencies
and partners and multi agency program plan or road map and a means of coordinating, budgeting among the various partners in order to get the resources to carry out the program
and lastly, a means of program measurement and evaluation and a program for traffic incident management.
As the Secretary of Transportation and State of Washington did you go McDonald said, what gets measured, gets performed
and so, I think performance measurement in traffic management will also lead to the practice or will sort of force the issue of traffic incident measurement.
What gets tracked does not performed and the closer we keep an eyen o what is going on, the more likely we are to do a better job of taking care of the situation.
Am safety agencies have measured their performance for a long time.
Primarily response time but other measures they have created to what their agency does.
It is what they get graded on.
People that provide budgets want to know how fast the police department.
Fire department and EMS got on the scene.
Not only highway incidents but everything they respond to.
Transportation agencies have long measured physical infrastructure indices and and ratings and operationally perhaps they have done inventory and pavement markings for maintenance.
But transportation agencies are just now getting into the practice of measuring operational performance.
Program performance measures are a little bit deference than individual agency measures in that a program in the case of the tracking program spans on what a number of agencies do.
And the data needed to evaluate what happens on an incident doesn't belong, and is not contained totally in any one agency but there are many agencies that not only share the practice but have the data on what happens on the scene.
And their own data basis.
So, before, program performance measures measure the aspects of the entire program there are multi agencies working together and not individual agency achievements.
They need to the data needed to cover is not contained in any one's agency database.
The two primary sources are transportation and law enforcement and the two biggest sources that probably cover 95 percent of what you need to measure what you want to measure in track management and the performance.
But a public safety agency is the first one on the scene.
Law enforcement or fire and rescue or emergency medical and transportation agencies are often the last one on the scene
and cleaning up the remnants of the incident of the public safety and they have been closed long before the transportation agencies left and the activities are still on the scene.
And in order to get a better view and I think one of the presentations after me will have a better diagram of this,
what is really needed to analyze what happens over the entire duration of an incident belongs in, resides in more than one database.
And the performance measures focus state initiative, we have both transportation and law enforcement people from all over the 11 states involved in the initiative.
The primary data sources are the law enforcement dispatcher or cab systems and in transportation, there are a number of transportation management centers.
TMCs that have all kind of archive data on traffic flow.
Service patrols are a very rich source of data. Especially where the data are integrated with TMCs and service patrols keep track and of especially the 24/7 service patrols and they have a very good database on all the stops
and all the minor things that they normally wouldn't get and even things law enforcement wouldn't get and all of the state combined and pretty good picture of what happens on the incident scene.
All the sources of data too and the performance measures of what you may want to look at.
And safety measures and crash data and that is contained in a number of agencies at the state level.
That may be DMVs or law enforcement agencies.
Focus state's initiative itself involves 11 states and you see them there, the abbreviations of the 11 states.
As I said, we had transportation and law enforcements transportation and in most cases these were state D.O.T. people from the Department of Transportation
and the law enforcement or either the state police or the highway patrol or the state patrol.
Depending on with a they are called in the state.
We also had Federal Highway support from each of the 11 division offices in each of the states plus headquarters and resource centers.
The purpose of the initiative was to define program level and performance measurements that go beyond agency measurements to measure entirety of what happens on the scene of an incident.
The incident calls to collect and enhance the state for performance measurement.
We are now in the process of starting.
We finished workshops as April who follows me will explain and we are in the process of helping the states exercise their action plans
and I think the two presentations from the states that will follow will give a broader insight in what is happening in the two states.
Right now, I would like to introduce April Armstrong who will summarize what is happening or summarize the initiative where we are with the workshops and what the workshops set out to do.
And the status of the initiative.
April has more than 12 years of multi-disciplinary experience focusing on analyses of plans.
Procedures, processes and technology to improve the execution of complex tasks involving multiple organizations.
Her area of expertise including strategic planning and communications and out reach.
Ms. Armstrong has designed and facilitated more than 200 workshops and worked across variety of domain and worked in transportation and Homeland Security -- April?
Thank you, Dave.
Well, it is my honor to work with the professionals that are participating in the Focus State Initiatives at the workshop
and it is my pleasure to present and review some of the out comes of the workshops and as Dave said, sort of summarize where the initiative stands today.
Let me see here today.
Jocelyn, I am having a hard time moving my slide.
There we go.
Okay, thank you.
I will touch on the approach that was used to develop those program level performance measures that Dave referenced as well as to develop the action plans that the states are currently beginning to I am implement.
And the approach by way of background that was used, first of all.
With a sponsored one on the east coast and west coast and which shared a common format.
The east coast kicked it off by nominating.
If you will, a set of objectives that they felt that they sort of shared in common.
The question was that they were asked to think about was what are the things we want to accomplish with respect to traffic management.
And moving beyond any specific agency or specific state and thinking more broadly.
So the folks in the room began to generate ideas and I will also mention we used again as part of the approach,
we made use of the group systems technology which allowed the participants to simultaneously offer up their ideas and to see each other's ideas on the screens as they were being nominated.
That enabled them to comment on each other's ideas and merge and collapse the ideas which led to the boiling down to the ten objectives that we will review.
That just helped generate a richer set of both ideas as well as discussions on the idea to say make sure the objective and the ensuing performance measures were clearly understood and mutually understood.
So this was done by the east coast participants first and they nominated for each of the objectives.
Specific performance measures that they felt could be used to evaluate progress toward that objective and they also identified from their perspective data sources and Dave touched on the common findings
such as the fact that in then, it was sound found that approximately 95 percent of the data could be collected by a small, relatively small data sources forecast.
That was able to be concluded and validated through the exercise and they also identified strengths and weaknesses as opportunities
and threats environmentally from their perspective would impact by helping or hindering their ability to implement these program level performance measures.
The west coast participants then took these inputs generated at the east coast workshop and then added on them.
They added additional objectives that they felt were not adequately captured.
They nominated performance measures that they felt potentially could be used to measure progress and then all of the participants came together in a workshop in dal also,
Texas where for the first time they had the opportunity to first of all come together and second of all review the synthesized out comes of the first two workshops.
The analyst team, FHWA analyst team had taken the data and attempted to consolidate and again additional objectives that were perhaps redundant and in some cases or things that may be, were sort of a hybrid of an objective.
A performance measure.
Value statement.
They cleaned that up.
Presented this to the Dallas workshop participants and spent the first, I would say half a day to full day further refining that.
Further tweaking that and further challenging the objectives to make sure they were measurable.
That they were specific and actionable, et cetera.
They then spent the latter half of the first day and all of the second day developing these action plans for implementing a sub set of those performance measures and we will talk about that in a second.
So, to summarize the accomplishments to date of the initiative before we dive into the specific performance measures that were selected by implementation of the 11 states.
First of all, more than 50 traffic management practitioners came together and participated in this and they did define ten program level objectives.
Meaning multi-agency objectives that are shared across three, what we are calling goal areas.
They defined a total of 30 candidate program level performance measures and we say candidate because these are not things that are being mandatorily implemented anywhere.
They nominated up as ways to measure up the ten objectives.
One of the most important.
And most important accomplishment of the initiative so far has been the development of common understanding of some core terms and such as incident clearance time that in the past ten to 15 years
have sort of percolated around the community in a very general way and yet we founder in these workshops mean, a minimum of three different things and you know, depending on which state or which practitioner you are speaking to.
It is found anything to mean incident clearance time anything from, the time at which the last responder leaves an incident scene to the time in which the last evidence of debris or evidence of an incident has been removed from the scene.
Or the time in which the roadway is actually completely cleared for full or normal operations to resume.
Those are three different meanings that we found that the participants found to be associated with the one term.
So one of the greatest accomplishments I think of the initiative even just this far has been the breaking out of that term and the specific identification of in fact three different terms.
So it is very clear and mutually understood that those are three different things we are talking about.
That is no pun intended but one of the biggest road blocks in the past to shared performance measures and the ability to share and compare results across jurisdictions or states.
That was a major step forward.
A second, I think, very important accomplishment of the workshop was as they mentioned earlier, this involvement of the law enforcement practitioners with the transportation prosecutors.
FHWA had planned for the folks to participate in the first two workshops, the east and west coast workshops.
It is not in the original plan that they would participate in the third workshop and that because the D.O.T. and practitioners are the ones who will be coordinating implementation of the plan.
But I think it is very significant in the east and west coast workshops.
These transportation practitioners and their law enforcement partners in cohesion articulated to FHWA their view of the law enforcement participation in the workshop.
They took that on board and did, as you have since learned, involved the law enforcement folks in the workshop and there is full consensus that was absolutely the right decision.
And that was a big step forward as well.
Finally all is 11 of the focus states have agreed to implement the program level measures and so, let's move forward and dive into that.
So with respect to the three goal areas that I mind, the objectives and the supporting performance measures fell into one or more of these three categories that you see on the screen.
Reducing consideration and improving safety and improving communications to reduce the impacts of incidents on customers.
I will review these and note that these are not in priority order.
They are just listed here.
But be clear these are not necessarily in priority order.
First of all, reducing incident notification time and reducing roadway clearance time.
This is one of the ways they distinguish between a roadway clearance answer incident clearance answer the third one you see there of course is reducing incident clearance time and recovery time.
And reducing the need for responders to arrive on scene after a notification.
Kind after response oriented objective.
Reduce the number of secondary and secondary incidents and the severity of primary and secondary incidents and that was largely the notion that primary incidents may not be preventable.
But they felt they could impact secondary incidents.
Number seven developing an reassuring familiarity with multi goals and objectives and supporting procedures and this is largely a training related goal.
Number, or objective.
Number eight, improving communication between responders and managers.
This is largely, sort of an across the TIM partnership area.
Not with the driving public at this point.
Number nine gets into communication with the driving public providing timely after and useful travel information to the public on a regular basis during an incident and number ten.
Regularly evaluating and using road user feedback to improve traffic incident management.
These were ten things that these 50 practitioners across 11 states.
That they all felt were important to accomplish with respect to traffic incident management.
I will not read through all 30 of the, of the program level performance measures that were nominated.
I would invite you to do so at your leisure.
Looking at the briefing specifically.
Pages eight through 12.
What I would like to do, because they are all culled out here and they are related to the objective that they support,
what I would like to do is draw your attention to two of the measures that all 11 states grow to implement and this, again, is one of the biggest steps forward of the initiative so far.
Which is not only that they have agreed to implement these, because I will mention in a moment, many if not most of the states to one degree or another, they are already measuring these two specific performance measures
but to agree to come back together within six to 12 months and to actually compare their results to share their experiences and how it, you know,
how it went in terms of implementing these and measuring these to exchange practices in how they went about doing it, that is a significant thing.
It is the first time that that will have been done in the community.
For this objective number two.
Reducing roadway clearance time, the program level measure that the folks nominated and agree to have in common is the tracking the time between the first recordable aware innocence.
Whether it is detection notification.
That line is increasingly blurred of an incident by a responsible agency.
And the first confirmation that all traffic lanes are available for traffic flow.
So that is the first one they have all agreed to implement.
The second one relates to objective number three which is reducing incident clearance time.
Which they, they define two ways of measuring that.
One which is not shown here.
Letter A is the time at which the last piece of evidence of the incident is removed from the scene.
This particular one B, they agreed to implement in common.
Which is the time of the first recordable awareness of the incident and the time of the last responder has left the scene.
Now, there were other states, other performance measures that received significant support which we will talk about in a moment but they did not receive the consensus by all the participants and they were actually.
Each state was invited to nominate three or four performance measures that they would agree to implement
and the way we discovered these two was that we essentially kind of looked at like a scatter plot diagram to see which of the nominated measures lined up and that's how the two emerged.
But again, they identified one measure that they would also take on board and experiment with implementing.
So that's what we will talk about in a moment.
The reinstates did not have more, that they agreed to implement, was primarily.
They either indicated they did not meet the state specific needs.
Therefore they did not feel that some of the other measures had as much value to them as a state
or they feet some of the other measures would be tough to implement or didn't have the institutional mechanisms yet in place within a six to 12 month time frame.
So, let's look for a moment at some of these other measures.
First of all, understand objective number seven, the training related objective.
Three of the states have agreed to implement that within six to 12 months.
And all of the states I should mention express that this was important to them and this is one of the areas, one of the things that FHWA invited them to think about through the course of the workshop.
Was areas where FHWA could provide support.
And in helping them implement the use and certainly.
FHWA cannot afford to buy a big.
You know, computer system for each of these, for each state.
But it is looking for ways that it can add value in reasonable ways to all the states.
This is one of the big things that came out and said, this is an area that would be beneficial to all of us.
Number five reducing objective number five. Reducing time.
The time needed for responders to arrive on scene after notification.
Two of the states indicated that they would like to implement that one as well as number nine, the providing timely after it and useful measure after it and how it is done.
Two other states will be implementing that as well.
Objective number six, reducing the number of secondary incidents and the severity and secondary incidents.
One state has agreed in the six to 12 month period of time agreed to take that on.
I will say all of the states are very interested in this. The reason they did not take more on at this time.
It is another one of the areas where more definition and if I had he is needed in how specifically secondary incidents will be defined.
It was very clear this would not be something they could resolve in the one workshop forum and this requires an ongoing and thoughtful dialogue.
The key challenge there is this notion of whether that's a, should be certainly defined
or whether that should be causally defined as it cast causality and that is one of the areas that has been very clearly defined that needs more work.
So that's the primary reason more folks didn't take that on.
Reducing instant notification time.
One state had said it will follow up on that.
And as far as objective number four, reducing recovery time, the time between the awareness of the incident and the restoration of the impacted roadway or the roadways to normal conditions.
One state agreed to take that on.
And the challenge with this particular performance measure is the notion of what it means to have a normal roadways.
Number influencing on that as well.
That was again something that quote got put in the parking lot to be further chewed on and thought about by folks.
And number eight and proven communication between responders and managers.
And I think this is something that all of the states agree is important.
And are doing it.
But one of the states said it would take the particular measure on, in the next six to one month time frame.
I would say objective six and seven in particular again, this notion of reducing incidents and number seven, the training related objective,
the performance measures associated with those, I would consider those to be considered quote most likely to proceed performance measures.
Number six is of particular importance.
Safety related measures to FHWA as well as to the state because FHWA does want to say a set of safety measures get defined.
I know they will be working with the states over the next year to define that as necessary to make that more doable by folks and number seven again number seven again is something they would really like help with.
Moving on to the action plan development framework.
What states did again with the two measures they agreed to implement and any other specific measures that they were interested in taking on.
They then moved into sort of regional working groups and they developed action plans and they were focused.
They worked primarily with the state partners.
So together they were responsible to develop the action plan framework and they were within -- of the colleagues so they can reach out as necessary and collaborate.
They identified of course the objective, the performance measure and for each of those.
Implementation partners.
Who else in their state would they need to be working with to capture the data and to add value to the data meaningfully and the specific sources and data for the performance measure
and identified their likely measurement tool and approach and if they knew it, they don't yet, it will require dialoguing with their partners to determine that and then they identified specific steps to evaluate the performance measure.
Including a lead coordinator for implementing the step.
Specific partners and rules for each step.
A general time frame for implementation and again, needed resources or support that FHWA could possible provide them.
There is a lot of work to be done with the action plans but the states made a big step forward and were able to work at varying levels of specificity in the state groups.
From the state action plans when they came back together at the end of the second day and they presented and we began to capture some what we emerging common approaches
and this list will grow as we begin to implement the stuff and this is offer value to other states that are not participating in the initiative downstream who are interested to also embark on the performance measurement.
One of them and I will touch on sort of the top three is the notion of starting small and and start the approach.
By focusing on a single area and outward with the performance measurement and once that is successfully in place for the one limited area.
Florida, Texas and New York really use the term test bed to describe that approach.
They also or most shared a commonality of noting the integration of their systems was going to be a very important implementation step in the implementation of the program level measures.
Nearly ever are state has it with their partners.
Including nontraditional TIM partners and developing methods to share the needed data to implement the performance measurement and railed to that.
Was the development or expansion of the MOUs and they have them in place with law enforcement and et cetera towing companies and et cetera.
Almost all of them.
Seven out of the 11 needed the to expand those to focus on data sharing agreements.
So that was pretty substantial.
The experience of these states with program level with yield insights that can be used by other states downstream.
The states did identify some issues to consider and I am implementing program measures.
First of all, more clarity and consensus is still needed on some really important factors that influence the ability to measure these things and one of them like how do you define a secondary incident.
How do you define normal roadway conditions?
How do you define for example a major incident versus a minor incident.
It would not be reasonable to compare response times or roadway clearance times very bluntly across all of the states when in fact not all incidents are created equal.
So the states noted that, "gosh, that's a really important next step."
We need to find objective ways to defined some criteria and thresholds for how we are going to tease that out.
So that's a big one.
Also, non-D.O.T. and non-law enforcement responders.
IE folks that are were not at this workshop.
Need to collect data and so that's something that we will fine over the next year when the states start reporting back on the experiences with that.
And perhaps there will be a need for the dialogue with the partners to bring them into the fold and get them on board.
Finally state agencies and systems may not collect systems consistently at this time.
That is something they are already aware of and that is factored into the system and kind of approach that was so common.
But that's a big one and that will have to be slowly chipped away at and beginning the dialogue with the big step in that direction.
The support areas that the states and the participants identified where they felt FHWA could best support them including things like technical support.
Providing obviously some funding, specifically information exchange opportunity such as this WebEx forum.
But also target at the 11 focus states allowing them to dialogue with each other within the focused state environment over the next 12 months.
Training, that objective is number seven and case studies and David Helman has arranged for them on the forum
but they are interested in getting insights into the specific context in which certain approaches are being tried in the various states.
They left agreeing to included each of these agreed to continue to refine their action plans and to act to implement these performance program level performance measures and more than that to share their progress and their experiences.
Recognizing that this notion of sharing this data, sharing these experiences and filing now ground.
FHWA has in some ways the book of the number of action steps here and they will coordinate with states for techniques and needs and forum for the state to exchange experiences
and they will work with states to further refine the types of incidents to evaluate it and to obtain the clarity in some of the these remaining areas that are still murky
and would therefore prevent it and come to a consensus based and of course including the definition of safety related performance measures and that is it.
That is it -- thank you.
Thank you, April.
We have now two presentations from states that are involved in the focus state effort.
The first one will be from Bill Legg from Washington State D.O.T. and Bill is the State Operations Engineer from Washington State D.O.T. and Bill is going to talk to you about incident response measures in Washington.
Thank you, Dave.
Just, to start off here with the opening slide, I want to leave this slide with a positive note.
Despite the appearance of this accident, the only person in the car, the driver walked away with minor injuries.
I show this slide because you will see here, our incidents response vehicle and state patrol, that was very visual accident and this vehicle is pulling a large trailer which had two horses in it which were also okay
and we had this incident cleared and all lanes open to traffic, everything removed from the roadway in about 30 minutes which is the focus of our incident response performance measures here in Washington.
I am going to give you a couple of slides here real briefly on our program.
And put what I say in context and this is Washington state.
Our program started in the early '90s.
Actually 1990, with the single vehicle operating in the Seattle area in the on call mode which meant the state patrol contacted our radio operations and requested our service that they thought it was necessary.
Between 1990 and 2002, that program slowly grew and to cover the greater Seattle area in Tacoma, and had we had about 20 vehicles, 20, 24 vehicles at the time.
Again, we were brand new, working on an on-call basis and predominantly in the rural areas.
In 2002, we had a major statewide expansion of the program.
And which did two significant things:
One, it went statewide and that is both urban and rural areas.
So we cover all state highway was in the state with the IR program and most of the activity is in the red areas which are called roving zones which is the other change in the program.
We went from an on-call service during daylight hours to a roving service.
So we were kind of looking, being on the road.
Looking on the road to help out on.
We are on call after hours again statewide.
So two significant changes happened and this is the, of course the I-5 corridor showing where most of the red is and then right down here and then we have got.
During the winter, two of, we have only three roads open that go east to west across the state to the cascades and the three are here, here, and here and we road those and Spokane and through I-90 in Spokane.
This is the IR fleet vehicles.
We have over four dozen vehicles.
Three classes of these.
We have the IR heavy which is equipped for significant traffic control for large incidents.
IR light which we use in the roving mode.
Mostly for minor accidents and they can help out either way and few tow trucks which are dedicated to critical bridge structures in the Seattle area that we can't afford to have blocked
and the state patrol is a major player in our incident response program -- we work together.
And as partners in incident response and in fact, they share our objectives and we will get to it in just a minute.
By the state patrols.
Driving training course and in Sheldon, Washington.
This is the wet skid pad which they use.
They help us with the sense of driving for our fleet operators.
So, on this state patrol cooperation and the D.O.T., we have again, there is a link here.
If you want additional information on this.
You can download this as a PDF file; we have a joint operations policy statement.
We call it JOPS which is sign by the Chief of the state patrol and our secretary which is defines all the steps that we as two agencies will work together on.
It isn't an option.
We will work together on from the policy perspective and what we need to do and it covers a lot of areas that we have common interest in and one of the big areas in there is incident response
and here you will see we have an example that this is where our program has its performance measurement which is to declare incidents in the 0--90 minutes.
Both us and the state patrol share the same objective.
Other things relevant is we have in the policy data sharing requirements and training requirements as well as some others and just I emphasize the role the state patrol plays in the program.
They dispatch the fleet.
Our IR fleet and when we are rolling to an incident.
It is because they called us directly on our mobile radio and to have us show up out there.
So, turning to performance measures.
I think generally, or specifically, a really, as an agency.
In anything we do and particularly incident response.
We have to keep two things driving us.
That account ability of program delivery and that is what is behind performance measures and I think more specifically, when you look at what we are doing
and how are we accountable and how are we delivering our program, I think this is a good slide to sort of sum that up.
We are really needing to tell everyone involved and that would be the citizens of businesses and the public officials in this state.
What our story is and how we can do it better.
And I won't read those bullets.
But I think basically for management what we want to do is manage traffic break downs is more significantly and expand the significant response programs impact on the congestion in the state.
So turning to performance measures specifically.
We have two going on in Washington.
We have the internal effort which is called, we call it affectionately the Grey Notebook.
And then at the state level which is coming out of the governor's office.
It is the G-Map program.
The account ability and performance and let me give you details on those.
And before I do that, it is important to point out that you can't have performance measures if you don't have data and I mention that we do share data with the state patrol
and that's with their CAD system and we get them in several formats depending on what we need it for.
And we also collect.
We have the tracking system which is our system of keeping track of everything we do in the field with the instant manager program.
This is a paper copy.
It as nice visual, really the whole data collection system is electronic.
So any time.
Any of the incident response team members have any involvement in the incident in a field, they feel us out and the challenge with data collection is,
it is finding what is reasonable to have someone in the field collect which is when they are very busy and what the engineers and the data folks would like them to collect and I think we have met,
we have reached a pretty good balance here and you can look at that is slide and get a sense of some of the data we collect.
Under the Graybook, Gray NoteBooks -- sorry about the phone there -- we have gotten the measures mile posted markers and again, you can go to a website if you want to look at that more specifically.
This was put in place in 2001, incident response.
It is a quarterly document and it has been in there since the second quarter and if you go to the website, you can view all of the archived copies and see how this,
how we have kind of grown over the years with our account ability and performance measures.
First issue is nine pages long.
Right now it is 101.
So that will give you a sense of the importance of this and how much value and effort we put into it.
The Gray NoteBook covers a lot of things.
Just so you know it is not just management.
It covers many elements of the departments at work and efforts and tracks those.
And so, if we go into the incident response section and give you a huge snapshot of some of what you will find in the Gray NoteBook.
If you go in there and it is covers some of that.
This is a chart which shows the number of responses and are average clearance time over time from our first quarter of 2002 to the third quarter of '05. The fourth quarter will be up in the Gray NoteBook on the website shortly.
And so, what you can see here is a couple of things of significance.
One is of course the program and tends to respond to more and more ENS departments and the dashed line here between quarter two and three
is when we had the major expansion when we increased the fleet size and went to the roving mode and you can see the impact of that.
We started to respond to many more incidents and it had an impact on the clearance times.
And it is, the same as what April mentioned in her discussion.
This is when we got everything off the road.
All lanes are open and we are consistent with the efforts there and the other thing is this average time -- 17 minutes.
I mentioned we have an objective, a performance goal of 90 minutes and I will show you how that starts to play in here in just a second.
This is average.
Obviously, we don't hit that on every incident.
And another chart here -- incident types.
This is just a snapshot of what we are looking at or the kinds of stuff we are seeing out there and dealing with.
The major disabled vehicles out here which is the majority of our responding to of course has to do with mostly motorists assists and if you look at that a little closer in detail and take out the non-collision situations we respond to.
Most of those are the disabled for motorists assists and provide fuel.
Flat tire, and push vehicles.
Those are the kind of thing you are seeing show up in that kind of a category.
Down here it as snapshot and Grey NoteBook.
We report on core performance measures and then we do something in each report to highlight the program, what it is all about.
And this was in the last issue.
We did what is called the day in the life of the incident response program and we looked at August 1st
and we picked a random date and I-90 in Spokane and told the story of all the incidents and what our IR folks were doing that day in Spokane.
So there is a lot of those sort of, sort of information in the archived copies if you would like to look into that.
So then we get down to the more important stuff in terms of incident clearance answer time, we divide our incidents up into three time blocks.
Less than 15 minutes.
Fifteen minutes to 90 and over.
And these are the two that show the under 90 minutes and what you will see is of course, up in this one, there is virtually no collisions in the less than 15 minutes
and down here is where the collision start to show up and injury collisions and noninjury collisions and we have got five percent and 16, so you got about 20 percent.
Where you start to see the big incidents, the fatals.
Large scale incidents.
Your over turned semis and stuff that turns up in the lasting longer than 90 minutes.
That's the last chart.
And here is where we are really needing to look at how we are doing our job out there.
Because our goal is 90 minutes or less to clear an incident.
As you can see here, where we don't achieve that.
And all the incidents.
We are actually -- 264 incidents in the last quarter, went over 90 minutes and the scale of things.
That is not a lot and inside of almost 16,000 incidents and what we find is the average for these is big.
It is in the neighborhood of four hours and so, these are big incidents and they cause huge amounts of back up and they are only a small percentage of the incidents.
They have the largest impact on what is happening on the road in terms of accident related congestion.
This is just another, I am going to get to the other 90 minutes.
And this is just another example of some of the stuff we will do in the Gray NoteBook and one of the things is at IR and work zones and we did a specific I am sis on that.
On one of the roads that we have a lot of construction projects and this is the mile post of the roads down here and how many incidents we were involved in on in those sections and how many were related to work zones or not.
And this is, one of the exciting things about performance measures is you may have a performance measure like 90 minutes and efforts focused on reporting that but once you have the data.
You can start to do a lot of stuff with it.
And that's an example of that.
And this is a graph showing the I-5 corridor.
And these are file posts down here and northbound lanes and heading south.
And you can look at this chart and say for any given mile post.
Northbound through Seattle or southbound, you you can see how many incidents we were responding to.
Again, this is a six month, nine month chart.
And I think it is important that this is the kind of stuff that once you are collecting data, you can start to use and in fact we have used some of the data, and we have just put in a request which is what the chart is.
This graph of the greater Seattle area and we put in a request to expand the program by another five vehicles and we have done that by looking at all the data we have
and showing where are we most likely to get the biggest impact in terms of number of incidents we can respond to and impact on reducing the durations through the program expansion.
And so, this performance and data, can really help drive your funding both to ask for more funding.
But if you are not doing your job.
But potentially to impact your knowing.
So I think the data is important knowing what you are trying to do with it is important and knowing what you are trying to do with the program.
So the government management account ability and performance.
This is the governor level G-Map, performance monitoring for most departments within the state and we are one of the agencies that is part of G-Map as is the state patrol
and incident response is one of the elements under the G-Map which is actually a joint performance presentation between us and the patrol.
G-Map has six goals there and if you want to read the programs there is a link specifically to IR
and I guess we have other stuff besides IR I don't want to leave the project that's the only thin.
We have worker safety.
And several other things being measured in G-Map and this is where G-Map takes the performance monitoring and measurements to the next level beyond the Gray NoteBook
and so, what we have done with G-Map is we have again looked at those incidents that are over 90 minutes.
This is a chart that shows by quarter how how many incidents that were serious in fatality and some that were not serious and over 90 minutes.
And these were the ones that we feel have the biggest potential for improvement.
So we look at that and see, they whoever around.
And 350 incidents a quarter and that are injury or fatalities and here they are, taking longer than 90 minutes which is the yellow bar.
So about 20, 25 percent plus or minus of these each quarter is busting the 90 minute rule and so, where G-Map takes over.
And the Gray NoteBook leads off is we have developed specific strategies which are listed under the plan here and under the solution of how we can approve that
and we have come up with a specific new performance measure which is to cut by 25 percent the number of these incidents that are taking more than 90 minutes.
So, what we have done is based on what we have learned with the Gray NoteBook.
We are now developing new more specific performance measures that can help us in our program.
So these now.
This will now become a reportable performance measure to the governor.
That's my last slide here.
I just wanted to point out that we are moving towards the retro look in vehicle design and that's our vehicle.
Actually, I am kidding.
It was back in the '50s -- back when we were the Department of Highways had a service patrol program.
It disappeared at some point.
Not quite sure why and I think the key was performance measures is with, if the program expands or contracts or disappears we will know why and that's why we want to do this.
We want to make sure what we are doing out there makes sense and if it does, we should continue to do it and if it doesn't we should try something else.
Thank you.
Thank you -- Bill.
I would like to now introduce Paul Clarke, from the D.O.T. Florida.
He is the statewide Incident Management and Program Manager for the Florida D.O.T.
He has been with the department since 1994, and in his current position since April of 2005.
Prior to his current position he was one of the department's five full-time emergency managers coordinating and preparing for response to major events in the State of Florida.
Raised in central Florida, he now lives in Tallahassee with his wife Jennifer and son Alex and has has become co-chair of the Safety Taskforce of the I-95 Safety Coalition.
First off, let me say thank you for letting me come in to represent Florida.
We are doing things good things in Florida and it shows me how much further we can go and how much further we will go.
So, Bill, excellent job.
First off, let say Federal Highway took off a big initiative to come up with a consensus of performance measures.
I know in the State of Florida to convince everyone to go in one direction is tough and that they did a real good job on this.
First off, let me state by going into showing you what TIM is in Florida.
Right now we have 15 active in Florida involving 24 of our counties.
We are concentrating mainly on our interstate systems and we have disparity in the panhandle where we need to do work and we will in the future future.
We have eight counties in the planning stages.
We have five counties without plans and we are looking to get plans statewide.
The concept of statewide has come about sometime around the year 2000.
And the first official meeting of the statewide was January 11, 2001.
That has moved a long way since the time of the first meeting.
Since the 2001 date and 2002, we established our statewide open roads policy between Florida Highway Patrol and Florida D.O.T.
and that is a goal of 90 minutes for incidents to be cleared from the roadway and helped defined the roles of FHP and D.O.T.
Now, is this a perfect open roads policy.
No, it is not.
It needs to be looked at again and maybe.
Redone to fit the national performance measures now.
Because it varies from our original definition like April said.
The definitions of clearance were different state to state.
We are trying to get to a consensus there now.
What the policy has done is allowing a starting point and expedited fashion and helps us identify identify what we need to do.
What I am proudest of here in the State of Florida.
We do have a statewide policy but really what is a great benefit is the local TIM managers and the districts and they are taking this to the local side, to the actual counties and cities.
And actually we are rolling these out to the local level.
And what that is doing is bringing in sheriff's offices, police officers.
Fire departments and just a whole gamut of people involved with incident management and supplying it at the local level.
And from my point of view as the statewide TIM team.
That is where it meets the row.
They are doing an excellent job on that.
In 2004, we established guidelines for accidental discharge of motor vehicle fluids.
We were having delay on the road systems because of clearing of such spills and such as that from the normal vehicle.
Busted tanks and such as that.
There was a misconception they had to be cleaned up by HazMat contractors when working with our Environmental Protection Agency,
we determined what was needed to be done and we developed guidelines for that and now that is helping for clearance of the road system as well.
Making clearing the roads a priority is what we are trying to do on a statewide basis.
One of the things we are having here is coordination of traffic control and such as that.
Get out there faster and get the traffic shifted over.
That is key in Florida because now we are going from state maintained road to asset management rain roads.
What that is creating is another, I would like to say a hurdle.
Or another object take tackle we have to get true.
Dependent on when it is initiated, would depend on the asset manager's role.
And some of them in charge doing craft in sub-center rain areas of D.O.T.
And trying to get that clarified is quite a challenge.
Tow trucks being requested as soon as possible.
Some of the things we are identifying is tow trucks were delayed.
Officers get on the scene and they are trying to work the scene and sometimes they would for get to contact the tow truck operator until it is almost completed with.
What we have done in particular place insist Florida.
We have gotten permission for other sonars to call for tow trucks instead of highway patrol.
The pedestrian exits on the tram as well -- using photos and that is helping to clear the scenes and in some cases cutting down the time on the scene by 50 percent.
Very, very important.
Go out and take snapshots.
Go back in the office with computer program and actually do their measurements and it is very, very accurate, the eyewitness program is.
Service paroles.
We are like everybody else.
We have service patrols and we actually have them spotted statewide in most of our districts.
Only one district, all of our districts have service patrols.
One district has it in construction zone only.
What they are doing is helping to expedite clearance ons the roadways .
Last year we had over 360,000 assists with the patrols.
So they are key in helping clear the roadways here in Florida and the program that is going to continue to grow.
We are looking at funding sources such as that now.
We realize how key they are and clearance for the roadway.
We don't always have to have law enforcement come and clear the roadway.
If we have a major incident -- damage and no injuries.
We can clear it ourselves and do an information sharing card system that we have and we can expedite getting that cleared out of the roadway.
The one thing we do notice is we need to determine what we need to measure.
We did this years ago and we had the cutter.
Center for urban transportation out of USL help us identify the performance measures and we did a report on that and we identified our short term and long term measures.
What we would like to look at.
Uniformity was a key that this report brought ought out.
Like April said, the definitions of certain things were different statewide and we are trying to get on the same sheet of music.
And what we saw these performance measures would do is validate the program and like in Washington state.
They are showing how the increases and such as that.
What a great benefit to be able to show your transportation commission or your management to show how your program is benefiting.
And also help to establish the incident time line.
And help us identify the parameters for the time line and knew when we could expect things such as that.
That is really key to us.
To help kind of dissect the incident.
Some of the measures reported and identified was the clearance time and response times.
I will not read all of these.
You can read them.
It helped to identify the measures that we felt were important here in the State of Florida.
Now, getting those implemented.
Some of the districts have taken great steps in implementing some of these already.
Statewide, we are not on statewide consistency yet.
That's one of the things we are trying to achieve now.
And performance measures was key.
What we did was with the track, we identified three and the reduced roadway clearance and clearance time and the development of familiarity of the MOUs.
Very, very key.
Real good information here.
We are trying to make steps to integrate the systems and since then I will go in more detail in just a second.
The incident time line we broke down.
What we did is we identified and dissected a crash scene actually and realized they mate not fall in there.
Someone might respond before someone else.
But this was a good starting point.
We identified as as far as our open roads policy.
From our open roads policy fell from the letter E, when the responder was on the scene to K.
Now, that's a little bit difference from--different from national perspective and we will go back and evaluate that and that will fit the national perspective and we want that.
And we are getting to the point where we can of start reporting this.
And one of the things we determined is trying to determine, where is the best spot to get the data spot.
There are two holders here and one of the transportation centers and one is the CAD system and we are trying to work that out right now.
This is how we dissected it.
And the text and verification response phases and clearance and recovery.
And then what happens after that.
And after we decide that we tried to capture it into a total incident.
And it was verified or from the time of the notification to the time law enforcement leaves the scene and into the incident influence time which is how long did it effect traffic.
That could be several hours after the scene is actually cleared and depending on the amount of cue and your location.
Such as that.
How do we get there?
Consistently track down a statewide from the TMCs and one of the additions is to develop a standardize criteria for performance measure tracking and one of the areas we are going to start with is the road rangers.
We are getting ready to put on the streets a procedure which will let our road ranger operator, each individual district know, this is the data sent that we need.
They can collect anything above and beyond that.
But we they will have to start collecting the core data sets and what that will do, it is going to get us on the same sheet of music which is very, very key in performance measures.
It is comparing apples to apples and apples to oranges and bananas.
And we will be moving forward with that and we will be coming down shortly to that.
Our cab data with our TMCs and we we thought it was going to be the silver bullet to fix that measure.
Not necessarily so.
We are looking at and have done comparison through some of the consultant staff that has showed it is not all concurrent.
It doesn't all fit.
There is disparity in the data and clear that up and work on that.
One of the main components we are going to depend on.
With it the integration.
We are going to really depend on our service patrols and service management centers.
We are in the process of developing software; through the management software which will be an incident management track in that way.
And it helps with the tracking on the scene.
That's the first step.
Second, using the 220 megahertz and for in our TMCs and it will be a data transfer and allow us to on the fly keep it updated between the TMCs and Road Rangers Operators.
It is going to give us a more.
Larger data set and more accurate data set we believe.
One of the portions of our data at that sets.
And will be the actual FHP report number and what we will be able to do then is go back and reference the CAD data to mary the two together to come out with the instant time line.
Right now we have a CAD interface through the highway patrol and through the I-Florida connection which is the statewide 51 within and we are looking at that connection and seeing what data is being provided.
One thing we have learned through the research is, there are two different data sets we are looking through and one of them is what is called loud data which some of it is confidential.
Because it is ongoing and there could be some information that is not willing to be released and then we had to look at FHP warehouse data.
As soon as it is cleared.
You are able to get a larger data set because it is no longer considered confidential.
We are pulling from two different data sets.
What we are looking at in some locations in the next, we are looking at reliability through the ITS systems reliability.
But that is going to happy us in incident detection as well as recovery time.
So we know incident duration.
They are being deployed as we speak.
Florida's turnpike -- it is a sensor every mile and some of the metropolitan mile and we are going to have sensors to a mile to half mile also.
It is a strong snap shot of what is going on once we get the base line data established there and following along with the number seven,
for the national continues statewide and we are tending to push forward and have a very, very active regional meeting.
We meet presently with the statewide team quarterly and looking at remodeling it to be more effective and that will be out very soon and we realize that those meetings are very, very key.
They have helped us identify problem areas and helped us to be able to sponsor additional FHP and law enforcement in problem areas.
Looking at moving forward with that.
And that's it for me.
All right, thank you, Paul.
And now we will go to the questions and I looking over the questions, there are some of them here and I actually,
I notice that one of the people parts participating in the webcast has answered another question of another person participating on the webcast.
Feel free to do that.
While you are in the conference.
Just to answer a couple of the questions and I would invite the young presenters who are on in joining me to answer.
Some they will have to answer.
Because I don't know the answers to some of them.
One of the questions, here is about the common understanding of core terms the utilizing ICS, that is commands system in order to be compliant.
This was not really discussed.
Any length and mentioned only briefly in the workshops.
Not everybody is aware of it.
That is a separate problem that is an operational problem.
And one of the cores of course in ICS and one of the core concept assist common terminology.
So everybody gets unambiguous and handling incidents if all sizes and shapes.
But that was not specifically discussed in the workshops.
Nor is it a central part of or important part of this effort.
Dave, this is April.
I would only, I would add to that that in my own experience, it is really does not get down to this level of detail.
Right.
So, as you said, it called for common terminology and to quote being NIMS.
Compliant it is working to develop.
But TIMs itself does not offer that common terminology for this particular level of specificity.
That's correct.
Another one of the questions regarded consensus did he have definition for normal conditions and as you recall, that was an article, discussion in the workshops
and normal is you know, looks normal here in Washington is not normal in Omaha or Peoria or anywhere else.
The question being, I believe, Paul referred to that and defining whatever normal means is a big problem.
We discuss touchdown and didn't spend time on it.
I think it is an area that needs to be addressed because normal varies from the area within the state and season and season and day by day.
I believe one of the measures Paul talked about was trying to identify whenever normal flow.
When traffic refers to normal flow, however, they choose to defined normal flow.
Question, are these performance measures directed primarily to urban area where D.O.T.s operating service patrols or to rural areas where they don't have service patrol.
I think the performance he is sures and again the panel can please chime in here.
But the performance most sures are what they are.
I think they are applicable to any place.
And urban.
Rural.
Freeway.
Arterial, street, the existence provides data set and you have to have something to measure.
If you don't have much data to measure.
Then you are restricted in what you can measure and if you have a service patrol, you have much more data and much richer data set.
There is another question here, the consideration of addressing the detection time the time between the beginning of the incident and the awareness time.
Just to clarify what we are talking about here, the we talked about when the incident actually happened and everyone understand that you don't know when the incident happened
until somebody tells you the incident happened and it is sort of like trying to find out how many unreported traffic incidents there are.
If they are not reported, you don't know about them.
Fortunately, in most urban problems incidents are detected quickly and most commonly by a cell phone to a public safety answer to 911 call or some other call.
Usually, that's within seconds of incident and major incident any way and major crash.
Maybe a little bit more lengthy in the case of a disabled vehicle or somebody on the roadside.
And of course, when you are trying to measure something, you have to have something established to measure and what you are looking at is time stamp on somebody's catalog.
And so you really don't know about the incident before somebody called in and the incident itself is recorded as a call on a piece on their time log.
I don't know if any of the other panelists will want to fill in on that or not.
One question on the I-10 question freeway in California.
I will leave you California folks to answer that.
There are some on the webcast now.
I won't go into that question.
I would, the person answered, that I suggest that you call your California office speak to someone at perhaps Federal Highway office in Sacramento to get an update on that.
Start sharing with MPOs and that was the one that was answered at the bottom.
Some of you, most of you can see that.
There are more questions.
Does anybody want to also answer that, Washington or Florida?
In Florida, we actually do report to our transportation commission.
And they are connected to the MPOs.
Okay.
Washington has a similar arrangement.
Thank you.
And the question for Washington state, determine the 90 minute clearance goals for work in construction zones?
Yes, well, at currently, it is.
We have just a 90 minute clearance for all incidents.
We haven't -- I showed that one slide.
We looked at RS16 and incident in construction zones.
We haven't really mind the data extensively enough to look at if there should be differences in the response performance at work zones.
So at this time, we are using 90 minutes and I can't say what that is the best choice or not.
Hopefully we will zero in on that in the future.
Anybody else want to add to that?
All right, the next question was, does the incident analysis data support the rule of thumb 50 percent of all freeway delays is nonrecurring?
Just a point of clarification.
The data consistently show that between 50 and 60 percent of freeway delay, I am not sure if it is freeway or all delay is due to what we call none recurring congestion.
Traffic accidents are part of it.
About half of it.
My rule of thumb is that the 50 percent is nonrecurring and 50 percent is incidents.
It is in the 25 to 30 percent range due to things we call incidents.
Disabled vehicles and debris on the road and crashes and and thing like that.
The other one recurring is weather delay.
Construction work zones and I forgot what else is in there but other things other than what you commonly called traffic incidents.
Next question, does Washington State D.O.T. have different variances in clearing time in your rural and urban areas?
How well do the rural areas hold up to the 90 minute clearance goal.
Yes, this is Bill, in Washington.
They do, you see a difference between rural and urban.
If you define as clearances from the time you are notified to the time everything is cleared from the road, if you look at that as your time frame,
where you find the rural, lags in the urban is the response time from all the responders be it the enforcements, the D.O.T., EMS, fire, HazMat.
Tow, all of the people who are participate in an incident.
They typically have to travel further to get to the incident and so that collectively adds time.
It is fair to generalize and say typically rural incidents of equal severity will take you longer to clear than in an urban environment.
Thank you.
Questions, in Rhode Island: we are currently working to integrate E 911, CAD system,
other states use 911 CAD data to help with performance measures and I would say that is one of the things that the group agreed with is that this integration of CAD
and transportation data particularly where incident data is concerned is crucial to be adequately measure performance data and I don't know.
By the way, the integration of the CAD, public safety CAD systems and transportation management systems are something that is has taken off and in the last three, four years
and used to be almost a forbidden topic of discuss discussion and now, it is a lot of areas and this needs to happen and everybody is a partner here and not only traffic incidents but other emergency.
Not only the highways but other places too.
And the responders can't responds adequately unless they are integrated better than they are now.
Either one of the panelists want to address the situation and their states.
This is Bill, I wanted to say I think Paul did a good job of explaining what they did with CAD data exchange and where they are headed.
I didn't touch on that in my presentation for Washington.
We have, we get a lot of data from the state patrol and what we found is that as you start to look into wanting data from CAD.
You have different audiences that need different data and so it becomes more complicated than a data exchange.
Once you start having to find out what data to you need and what format.
We get data in three formats.
One goes directly into our travel information system.
It integrates with the cars and 511 data systems and one is in the performance measures we look at the CAD data and then of course, we get data directly into our TMCs.
Live data from the CAD systems and each one of them looks different.
It acts different and works different and it is really targeted towards a different need.
And so, it is I agree, in past terms.
I was in a difficult hurdle and once you come to work with patrol and start to under your need and how it can help you and therefore help them.
It makes it easier.
This is Paul Clarke, and Bill is correct.
It is getting those data, and the data in everybody needs -- who wants it is a little bit different and we are trying to, in Florida trying to get one central point where it comes in and instead of having it disbursed.
We We are going to have through our lab and research and lab.
We hope to build a database there that will house the data that can be consumed by everybody.
Okay there is one question that I inadvertently skipped over.
I see someone has already answered the question.
In Washington and Florida highway, the highway patrol or in Washington, it is the state patrol.
The primary responder in both rural, and urban, the question is is the prime responder.
Is the local police a responder on the freeways?
In Washington, the Washington state patrol has all authority on the state roads.
But the local police can respond to state roads if necessary.
Just depends on the situation.
In Florida, the interstate system and turnpike systems are covered by Florida Highway Patrol and in most cases Florida Highway Patrol does the system,
more the state roads on the local level but that is generally turned over to the sheriff's offices and local police departments.
All right.
Thank you.
In the number of states, this varies all over and in many areas.
Especially rural areas and in also the Midwest, more commonly, I am from the Midwest initially.
The service departments are important law enforcement responders.
They are the prime law enforcement responders in many cases.
Let's see, I assume Florida will be gathering intel from only 15 areas.
All they do in the area they do with TIM teams for stats.
Paul, you want -- what we are looking at initially to get us going in the right direction.
We concentrate where we have TIM teams and traffic management centers.
The traffic management center, the way we are looking at it in Florida is the key to gathering the data.
Number one , there are lots of incidents where we have them clear the wreck and the Florida Highway Patrol never touches
because we we can expedite the clearance of the road wrecks want do an agreement between the incident victims and Florida Highway Patrol is not even contacted.
So that is one reason we we are looking at that.
Sometimes we we deal with the Florida Highway Patrol.
They are, sometimes it takes them -- there might be a two-hour wait for them to get to the scene.
Because they are working so much crashes in the metropolitan area.
So we are waiting on them for the accurate time line.
May not be accurate.
So we are looking at areas where we have TMC deployments and that is our main concentration at the time.
All right.
Looking for there is question here.
Is the agreement to use the incident standards.
That is zero to 30.
Thirty minutes to two hours and two hours plus, the incident duration, they are not really standards.
They are suggested times for evaluating the needed traffic control.
Anything that you think is going to be there.
Should have more of the ability to set up good traffic control and like you would set up for a work zone.
And the zero to 30 minutes.
You don't have much time to set much of anything up.
Then it is over before you get it set up.
Thirty minutes to two hour assist an intermediate range.
That was discussed.
I don't know if anyone on the panel wants to field that or not.
But you know, Dave, this is April.
I would add to that and I would invite Bill or Paul to further chime in and my recollection. This was raised in the workshop.
But I think the consensus was the notion that not all incidents are created equal.
So the feeling was that you couldn't use a blunt measure for you know.
All incidents.
For example, HazMat incident or a multi-car pileup type incident.
You know, simply cannot be cleared within the 30 minute time frame quite possibly.
That is one thing I recall from the workshop.
Bill or Paul, would you have anything else to add to that.
I agree with you, April.
That's what we discussed in the workshop.
It can be kind of a controversial subject.
You know, every emergency is an incident; but not every incident is an emergency.
It is common but a gray area.
There is the one question here.
It is in helping.
Was consideration given to emphasizing and reducing the number of incidents cleared within a given time period as opposed to place solely on the reduction of clearance time.
And my recollection of that was no.
But if any of you three would recall that differently, please say so.
This is Bill, well, for us in Washington that kind of gets on what Paul said.
Every incident is different that kind of an approach was viewed a little.
Maybe too generically and in the G-Map, the performance measures we are looking at.
We are getting closer to that and focusing on a percentage of give and incident cleared within a given time but a specific type of incident.
So, I think this could be done.
But you have to qualify it with the target of the type of incident you are trying to apply this to.
Okay, thank you.
The there is a question raised about the, could we receive copies of the presentations and the Q&A and the session.
And the answer is yes.
They will be posted on the website.
Which is right there in the center of your screen: www.intalk -- yadda, yadda, yadda.
And I am not sure what the time frame is posting.
Within a week.
Within a few days.
The other questions I see, I think have been more or less answered and I don't I don't see anything that is outstanding that we haven't addressed.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everybody that has participated.
I would like to make one pitch for another webcast for tomorrow.
It is the Talking Operations Seminar series on February 23rd, 1-2:30 and it is on Cases of the Energy Policy Act on Owners and Operators of Traffic and Pedestrian Signals.
And I invite you all to attend.
There is a couple other webpages.
Couple other sites that will be posted.
And I would like to remind you all there is a National Traffic Incident Coalition that is a few years old.
It is at the national level.
Twenty organizations involved in the public safety and private sector.
And trying to call us the traffic incident management policy at the national level and another one.
Here is our traffic incident management MTWA website.
This has not been updated recently but I intend to update it soon.
By the end of the month and it will contain some new date data that is not on there now about the performance activity and some new news so don't do it right away.
You will see stuff that is fairly stale there and it as priority of mine to get it updated.
We have had some it hasn't been updated recently but it will be soon.
Is that it?
That is it?
Okay, with that, I will like to thank all the participants for their contributions
and I would like to thank the presenters any way for their contributions and the participants for their questions and their interest in this and do you have any thoughts?
I guess we will bring this to a close then.
And thank you all for participating.
Thank you.
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